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Originally Posted by docquesting
And I have already mentioned in this forum that we are all sinners
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That's the part that is sometimes hard to accept. Since God is the creator of everything, he is also the creator of the very sins he is so kin on threatening to punish us for. I'm probably not a perfect father, but at least I didn't let my kids come to this world to blame them for anything. I makes mistakes and I can admit it. If you really read the Bible more than twice you will agree that God blew it a few times. Since we have been created to his image then he is as much a sinner as we are. Duality of God is a problem as old as Christianity itself.
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Originally Posted by docquesting
And yes I am no better than any of you. But when it comes to the Bible and what God says is right we had better watch out.
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Most of us dont know what God says, but only what other people told us what God said. So the majority of Christians have only third hand knowledge of their "father".
Not to mention that the multitude of Christian denominations makes you ask question as to the validity of some "universal" truths. Why should Baptists be accepted over Catholics, or Lutherans over Mormons?
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Originally Posted by docquesting
Beleiving in the Word of God makes more since than beleiving in nothing or in evolution and that we came from apes. Bottom line that is.
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Bottom line is that evolution is not an issue to be believed. It's a fact. Next time when you're prescribed antibiotics ask the doctor why it is important that you finish all the pills, even if you feel OK before they are all used up.
As for "coming from monkeys"; just as many atheists do not understand the essence of spirituality, many religious people do not understand the essence of the evolution. Yes, Darwin made a few wrong assumptions and drew a few wrong conclusions, but these are technicalities that by no means abolish the validity of the evolution in general.
Have you even read the book? Have you looked around you. There is plenty of proof that evolution is a fact. One might even say that there are more proofs of evolution than there are proofs that God is among us.
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Originally Posted by docquesting
Step outside some night and look at all the stars. Where do you think they came from and the whole universe?
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Looking at stars proves nothing. There is a relation of mutual exclusion between the physical and the supernatural in the historic sense. Science has no means of proving or disproving the existence of God. The closest we can come to the proof of God's action is by running out of time when going back into the beginning of the universe. While we have no scientific proof that God exists, we can probably deduce based on science that a supernatural power was the cause of everything. To you it was the Biblical God, to others it may be someone or something else. To you God is still actively involved in the universe, to others he was just the creator who retired after "seven days" and he is probably playing chess with some archangels
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Originally Posted by docquesting
I think deep down you know that there truly is a God it is just us that is the problem. We have to accept His plan for us and repent and follow HIS commandments before we can start seeing the light of day.
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Whatever plan that may be the Heaven is only about 144 square miles (according to the Bible). By now it must be a pretty crowded place, so my take is we're all doomed anyway.
And what is it that we should repent for? Why is it that a newborn baby is supposed to be eternally condemned should it die before it can see and accept "the light and love" of God? Just doesn't make sense. Did God create millions upon millions of non-christians just so that he could condemn them. I see no real plan here. Well, if there is one, it certainly doesn't show any kind of love. If God is truly loving and knows what he's doing than I cannot fathom why he gave us brains. Some things simply do not add up.
Bottom line is that the Bible should not be taken literally. It is a beautiful piece of art and very inspirational at that. After all it’s a very ancient text, based on even older, mostly Persian writings, so it had been worked upon for some time. Still, it is far from perfect, and pretty clumsy in some parts, so my take is that it would be offensive to God to call the Bible his word.