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Originally Posted by dpam
I don't disagree that they have significant responsibility - but I don't agree that they 'owe' any site any more than a 'fair' algorithm or process, or an honest attempt at creating one. Nobody in this game is unaware that the algo is subject to change at any time - we hope it will be fair, we hope it won't knock us down (yet are happy when it bumps us up), we know we won't exactly understand it - but we knew the terms when we started playing...
I understand your argument about their moral responsiblity to the businesses they serve. I'd argue that they have just as large a moral obligation to the business in position 245 who should be in position 4 - the sword cuts both ways...
I also think that they should get some room to do their work, and even screw up a bit, so long as they fix it. They shouldn't be reckless, and we shouldn't be unreasonable...
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I think that is the issue that has truly been lost in this whole mess...fairness. This isn't fair. Business isn't fair. Google is trying, as per their obligation, to be fair. If they are at least a responsible company, then they are trying to be fair. And I believe they have proven responsible thusfar. They are a business that produces a medium. We, as developers, writers, whatever we are, use this medium as a canvass to paint our business. With better or worse results than other. Remember that we are manipulating a medium. Google doesn't guarantee results. It tries to provide the world a way to search the internet for what they are looking for. I think they've realized that and are trying to make THEIR (not our) search engine better for everyone, even those who aren't looking for your corporate website, but instead maybe trying to figure out what a brown recluse looks like, but winds up finding a bunch of crap at the top of the search engine results that has nothing to do with the spider at all. (Figurative...don't go searching for "brown recluse"). Remember for a second that the web wasn't developed, AT FIRST, to be a business medium. There are scholars, mothers, grandmothers, children who also use GOOGLE, and there are web developers who are tailoring sites to them out there.
If your site dropped, I'm sorry. If your site gained, I'm sorry too, that one day it is going to drop, too. Google doesn't owe you, or the rest of the 68 billion people on this planet anything more than a medium for finding your art.
Good luck with the changes that are coming.
BTW, I've tried to follow the forum at MWM. It's too bloated. Anyone want to start a new post, please, that clearly, and simply, outlines what in the world has happened. Has google done this somewhere that we can go read. Now, that would be responsible.
Sorry for the soapbox moment...