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Old 07-27-2007, 09:32 AM   #147 (permalink)
Manish Pandey
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>>>Well bob... Aviva being authority or not is the main issue of this thread

That doesn't change what I have stated nor does it mean that other related issues can't be discussed in the same thread.
Well you stated that if a domain is an authority then it must rank to the top of SERPs atleast for their title terms and according to rand as Aviva is not showing up for its title terms means that it is not an authority domain.... Now, if we look deep we find that you mean similar to rand! Or in other words rand uses your technique to classify a website is authority or not! Well if a domain is an authority then it could rank for any term what so ever until the competition is not high! Well we all know the power of domain authority...as i mentioned above my site only a year old shows quite a high competitive term for google trust i'm top 20!

You could discuss related terms not at the cost of suing Aviva again and again for it being authority or not .... which i know you are not doing rand is doing...LOL

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>>>It isn't necessary that if you don't have the keyword phrase on the body you can't have it on the anchor!!! Got the point.

Not at all. Completely missed it.
Now...now...if you don't mix things up for your anchor then you are in deep deep trouble! I guess you could find every good SEO like John, Mike, AaronW...talking about it... "mix your anchor texts with related terms"...if you don't know this factor then...ummm....what could i say!

The reason behind this is that you don't control the anchor text links...it is what people do! and if you control the links then sooner or later you would be penalized! So mixing things up makes thing look natural to the search engines! Now do you get the point...

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>>>You are saying the same thing in different manner...dude!!! Re-read what i said!

I re-read it and we are for sure saying two different things.

You said...

>>>Now if we search for allinanchor:"quality business cards" this shows how many sites are competing for the exact the same keyword i.e. "quality business cards" and your site comes on page 2.

I totally disagreed with that statement and said...

<<<No. Searching for the phrase in quotes shows you how many pages are competing for the exact key phrase. Search for the key phrase with the allinanchor: search operator shows how many pages have inbound links with that exact phrase.
Well when i said sites it would normally mean pages...dude...come on! As index.php, seo-services.php are pages and not sites! A site is collection of pages! And all the pages could target any keyword! Now did you get the point!
and quoting to what you earlier said:
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I don't think he is going to rank any better than any other site that has as much site authority, has as much topical authority, and gets equivalent off-page SEO for that key phrase. I do think it would be fair to say he would rank as well as a site that has the same site authority, same topical authority, and gets the equivalent off-page SEO.
Site is a collection of pages so you cant get authority on pages of your sites...it's domain which gets authority status!!!

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>>>Disagree with some solid points I've the most solid points up here!!!

Your solid point was...

>>>So, a better competitive analysis could be done by allinanchor:quality business cards where we are asking google how many sites have quality business cards in their anchor .... again it may be in any order!

I fully disagree with that. Using the allinanchor: search operator is not a "better competitive analysis" in my view.
Looks like you have just come out here to disagree with us whatever we say!!! It doesn't matter what you think and what you don't...the thing which matters is that this free world of SEO and Internet contain good solid fundamentals and people, who do a proper research before suing anybody!

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>>>Wow! Thanks for the compliment...

Er, I didn't give you one : ) In fact I have a hard time understanding your points at all.
Because you don't want to understand them!! LOL

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>>>Well how do you achieve topical authority?

By having lots of won links from many sites of the same themed and those links having anchor text terms that are related to that theme and the content you have on your site and that those link point to being of the same theme.
Well this is what i said:
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How to get topical authority? Simple by getting high quality inbounds from you topic concerned
And now i gotcha...
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By having lots of won links from many sites of the same themed and those links having anchor text terms that are related to that theme and the content you have on your site and that those link point to being of the same theme.
Aviva has many inbounds just because of it being on the front page of digg for more than once! Well does that count for won links in your criteria!!! If i link to a site then definitely that site is concerned with my topic...and people who link to me would also be of similar topic to me.... now you also mention anchor text links well how would one know that seo expert is the keyword for www.manishpandey.com ... what people would do is just link with my domain name (which here happens to be my name) as an anchor text!
Similar things happened with www.avivadirectory.com as they are not targeting the term information web directory they never bothered to get ranked for that term! And well i've already mentioned the terms that they target.....

Now...i know you would disagree to me to the fullest!!!

I don't mind until we are having a good debate...keep em comin...
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