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Old 07-31-2007, 02:32 PM   #163 (permalink)
Manish Pandey
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>>>Well you stated that if a domain is an authority then it must rank to the top of SERPs atleast for their title terms and according to rand as Aviva is not showing up for its title terms means that it is not an authority domain

Could you please post the quote and link where I stated that.
Already done by Michael...thanks dude!
And Bob at least remember to what you said!

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>>>"mix your anchor texts with related terms"...if you don't know this factor then...ummm....what could i say!

I agree with that but that was not what you stated before. You stated the following...

>>>It isn't necessary that if you don't have the keyword phrase on the body you can't have it on the anchor!!! Got the point.

I responded by telling you I missed your point.
Missed the point why??? and now you seem to agree! Thank god!!!

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>>>The reason behind this is that you don't control the anchor text links...it is what people do! and if you control the links then sooner or later you would be penalized!

I don't think you would get penalized for having the same text in your anchor text. Perhaps the links could be devalued as they don't look natural but not penalized.
"Devalued" huh...its just you are using a different "english" word! Devalued in SEO would generally mean that your rankings would be lost!!! I used the word penalized...and that does also the same thing drops your ranking!!! The chief factor being that your rankings are lost....

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>>>Now if we search for allinanchor:"quality business cards" this shows how many sites are competing for the exact the same keyword i.e. "quality business cards" and your site comes on page 2.

>>>Site is a collection of pages so you cant get authority on pages of your sites...it's domain which gets authority status!!!

I would basically agree with this and I don't see where I stated anything differnet.
From the word go you were disagreeing! Now, seems like you have started to agree!

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>>>Looks like you have just come out here to disagree with us whatever we say!!!

No. But I do disagree with a lot that you are saying.
Like...the points i and Michael presented are wrong!!!

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>>>Aviva has many inbounds just because of it being on the front page of digg for more than once! Well does that count for won links in your criteria!

I havn't reviewed Aviva inbound links and I don't see the need to. I would rather stick to discussing principles.
Now...now....you don't know the power of being on the front page of digg.com or what! Well rand quotes that
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Rand answers to Amit - from our testing, the average story to hit the Digg homepage results in the domain that website is on gaining 1000+ new inbound links over the next 3 weeks - to me, that's very good evidence that Digg has a strong, though indirect, influence on the potential to earn high rankings.
Does that makes sense to you??

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>>>I don't mind until we are having a good debate...keep em comin

I am not interested in a debate. I am interested in sharing and learning. I feel no need to debate for the sake of debating.
You don't sound like you have come here to learn!!!

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>>>who do a proper research before suing anybody!

Er, who is suing someone?
Ohh...rand is loving aviva and saying everybody to go for it...and i thought rand sued aviva in the web sphere...

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>>>And one more thing that I happened to came across is that your page seocompany.ca/seo-expert-bob-mutch.html rank below to mine manishpandey.com for the term seo expert.

Good work, your site out ranks mine!
Thanks pal!

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>>>Now does that mean that my site has higher domain authority than yours

Of course not.
And what did i say...
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Now does that mean that my site has higher domain authority than yours...no it doesn't! What it means that I've anchor text links related to it
Lol you missed the rest of the part...

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>>>So, you see why i pointed out this.

I am not sure.
As i already said you missed it completely...here it is once again...just for you...
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And one more thing that I happened to came across is that your page seocompany.ca/seo-expert-bob-mutch.html rank below to mine manishpandey.com for the term seo expert.

Now does that mean that my site has higher domain authority than yours...no it doesn't! What it means that I've anchor text links related to it not exactly that term...i go for seo expert india, seo expert service,seo blog or simply manish pandey!!! Just to mix things up! You see...i've those terms in my anchor text...

Now...your site is registered on 2004-07-13 and mine on 2006-07-14 you see! Yours is 3 years old and mine only 1 year! You have huge amount of links 28,800 from high quality sites and i've only few hand full only 641!

So, you see why i pointed out this. It is because this fact that Aviva is not ranking for the term Information Web Directory because they don't target that term. As your site is high authority your page should have come up to the top 10 or atleast ahead of my site!!!

So rand's test based on your classification that a site which doesn't rank for their title terms is not an authority is incorrect!
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>>>So rand's test based on your classification that a site which doesn't rank for their title terms is not an authority is incorrect!

I have never stated that. Please find a quote where I say that. I don't think Rand believes that either.
Already quoted by Michael...

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>>>I guess bob might agree seeing this that allinanchor: is the tool to check competitiveness of a key phrase and not his so called "keword phrase"

I dont' think allinanchor is the best way to check how competitive a key phrase is. I look at a number of things, Overture searches, allintitle:, allinurl:, allinanchor:, term in quotes, site authority of the top 10 sites that rank for that keyword, and a number of other items.
Overture searches for competitive analysis... .... and i used it to get an idea about how many times a particular key phrase was searched that month!
And until now you were just saying that "keyword phrase" is the best method to do it and never supported my allintitle: and allinanchor: theory. At last you are supporting now!!!
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