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bobmutch · 08-06-2007, 08:05 PM

mvandemar:

>>>Well you stated that if a domain is an authority then it must rank to the top of SERPs atleast for their title terms and according to rand as Aviva is not showing up for its title terms means that it is not an authority domain

<<<Could you please post the quote and link where I stated that.

>>>Also John I think that is a valid way to measure how well a page rankings by taking the title or part of the title.

You said that I said "if a domain is an authority then it must rank to the top of SERPs atleast for their title terms" and I ask you for where I said that you and produce "a valid way to measure how well a page rankings by taking the title or part of the title". Give me a break with you. There is no simularity in those two sentences at all.

>>>but surely you admit in that statement you were trying to imply that Rand's assessment of the quality of the Aviva directory, based on his title-ranking test, was sound and should be trusted

Not at all. I stated that a valid way to check if a site has authority is to see if it has rankings for the titles of it pages. As I noted before I stayed away from Rands example and deal with principles instead.

>>>Well, afaik you are in fact defending Rand and his methodologies in this thread

I was agreeing with the principle that Rand was using as it is a true principle.

>>>So, Bob, if you could please, how is it that you think that it is possible for a directory to pass a test determining that it has "little to no value", for that test to be "valid", and yet for the directory to still be an "authority"?

As noted before I have stayed away from making judgements on the Aviva directory other than to say that I recommend it and submit my clients to it, and that it works well. Really what I did was go directly against Rands position when I noted that directories don't require site authority to provide ranking weight as there is high ranking weight given to one-way, page relevant inbound links from directories that allow the exact key phrase you are targeting to be put in the anchor text.

<<<I dont' think allinanchor is the best way to check how competitive a key phrase is.

>>>why don't you please show us how those values significantly differ from the stats I posted, and prove that the statement I made about which keyphrase was more competitive was actually incorrect, instead of just saying "Well, that method isn't the best".

I don't think these things can be proven. I post the opinions I hold and I try to base my opinions from my personal experience and from the positions of other high end SEO consultants that are in the know and do more than just talk about SEO but form their opinions for experience.

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bobmutch Senior Member Join Date: 10-01-04 Posts: 135 iTrader: 0 / 0% Latest Blog: None	mvandemar: >>>Well you stated that if a domain is an authority then it must rank to the top of SERPs atleast for their title terms and according to rand as Aviva is not showing up for its title terms means that it is not an authority domain <<<Could you please post the quote and link where I stated that. >>>Also John I think that is a valid way to measure how well a page rankings by taking the title or part of the title. You said that I said "if a domain is an authority then it must rank to the top of SERPs atleast for their title terms" and I ask you for where I said that you and produce "a valid way to measure how well a page rankings by taking the title or part of the title". Give me a break with you. There is no simularity in those two sentences at all. >>>but surely you admit in that statement you were trying to imply that Rand's assessment of the quality of the Aviva directory, based on his title-ranking test, was sound and should be trusted Not at all. I stated that a valid way to check if a site has authority is to see if it has rankings for the titles of it pages. As I noted before I stayed away from Rands example and deal with principles instead. >>>Well, afaik you are in fact defending Rand and his methodologies in this thread I was agreeing with the principle that Rand was using as it is a true principle. >>>So, Bob, if you could please, how is it that you think that it is possible for a directory to pass a test determining that it has "little to no value", for that test to be "valid", and yet for the directory to still be an "authority"? As noted before I have stayed away from making judgements on the Aviva directory other than to say that I recommend it and submit my clients to it, and that it works well. Really what I did was go directly against Rands position when I noted that directories don't require site authority to provide ranking weight as there is high ranking weight given to one-way, page relevant inbound links from directories that allow the exact key phrase you are targeting to be put in the anchor text. <<<I dont' think allinanchor is the best way to check how competitive a key phrase is. >>>why don't you please show us how those values significantly differ from the stats I posted, and prove that the statement I made about which keyphrase was more competitive was actually incorrect, instead of just saying "Well, that method isn't the best". I don't think these things can be proven. I post the opinions I hold and I try to base my opinions from my personal experience and from the positions of other high end SEO consultants that are in the know and do more than just talk about SEO but form their opinions for experience.