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Old 01-03-2008, 03:08 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Ferre View Post
Way too close. When witnessing how the EU constitution is forced upon our people here in the Netherlands, despite we voted against it and it's a totally undemocratic institution (Not one of the EU politicians is voted for, they are all appointed) it's signed and pushed upon us anyway.

That's a little taste of what's to come; more fascism.
Democracy is the problem. Fascism is just nationalistic, so fascism isn't the word you want here. Authoritarian would be a better description.

But, in the hobbesean view of government which is essentially "American Liberal" or collectivist, you forfeit individual rights to be part of society, and really can't complain, regardless of what the gov't decides is best for you.
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