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Old 04-07-2008, 06:32 AM   #71 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by John Scott View Post
China? I don't see it happening. They will continue to oppress their people for centuries, because it's economically prudent. Like abortion.
So as a nation you're only going to right carefully selected wrongs - but only if you can convince everyone else it's OK by lying about your motives beforehand, especially if you can fall back on the old saw that motives don't matter afterwards? Nope, I don't see any double standards there. What was I saying about doublethink?

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I see that you can't rebut the argument. You want to know why you can't? L. O. G. I. C.

Because appeal to motive is a fallacy.

*Cue "flushing sound" as your argument makes it way to the sewer*
Oh no, it's a floater! The important thing to note here, is that one has to be able to evaluate a proposition, not just spell it. The appeal to motive is fallacious, because it says something like
"It's obvious why they went into Iraq: Dubya's dad didn't finish the job, so Dubya did it for him."
That's an appeal to motive.

What I said was, the primary official reason given by the Bush Administration for going into Iraq is because of the WMDs. They whipped up a frenzy and fed it to the UN. Now of course they deny it was to do with WMDs.

I don't actually have to appeal to motive because they told everyone what their motive was already.

But that's OK, because apparently, motives don't matter. If a paedophile with a camera fetish stops a kiddy being raped so he can take photos of her hoo-hoo, apparently you want to give him a medal. Or at least a senior position in the Bush administration.

It's interesting that you think motivations don't matter. No, wait, not interesting, the other one... baffling.
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