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I'm confused on your stance, I really am. You say you're against it except in extreme circumstance but yet you are talking how everyone should be proven guilty before it is used. If you wait for the process of a court of law, over here is usually a year minimum to get it to court. The extreme circumstance by that time is long gone.....Water Boarding, while technically can be seen as torture, I don't see as real torture compared to historic methods. I think if used in a responsible manner to ascertain information that is going to prevent terrorist attacks then it should absolutely be used.
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Ok, I'm only going to say this once, as it's really no one else's business. But I am going to explain something briefly....As of my last neurologists appointment it's been confirmed that my brain is slowly shrinking and the white matter is increasing similar to Alzheimers if not Alzheimers going on, I take a lot of meds to help slow the process down, but because of some things I can't usually form a thought away from the computer then come here and convey it into words....some times my posts will be more clear and precise than others and all I can do is apologize for it but it's not within my actual control. I do try to stay away, or actually do stay away when it's at it's worse. I'm not asking for nor will I except sympathy of any type. I do however expect and most instances demand understanding.
However that said, most of my posts while probably more long winded than they should be are based in pretty sound logic most of the time. And I don't see that my issues are severely argued by others that posses the ability of thinking in that manner. If I'm wrong on a subject I will readily admit to it when shown the error of my ways, but at the same time I will forcefully stand my ground when challenged. If that's not the right way to be then tell me what is.
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That is two posts and 351 words. I stated my position and asked you what was your's. In reply, of your 351 words these are the only ones which furthered our discussion;
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I think if used in a responsible manner to ascertain information that is going to prevent terrorist attacks then it should absolutely be used.
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You have also misrepresented me:
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... You say you're against it except in extreme circumstance but yet you are talking how everyone should be proven guilty before it is used. ...
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That was taken out of context. I was asking John Scott if that was the implication of a statement he made. I was not expressing my view, but an interpretation of his view and asking him if that interpretation was correct.
You seem to be confused about what torture is. You think that water boarding is
technically torture but don't want to admit it is torture. You seem to want it in a separate category, because it will fit more comfortably in your head and I suspect, because you want to make use of it. But of course, if it was seen by you to be torture then your mind would get all squeamish about making use of it.
Perhaps before we go any further you need to define, for yourself as much as anyone, what torture is? Can you call a sword a sword, or is calling it a rubber chicken the only way you can cope?