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Originally Posted by John Scott
The Gestapo also put thieves in prison, so I guess we should stop doing that too?
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Originally Posted by StrongInTheArm
I do not believe in the use of torture except under extraordinary circumstances.
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So, stated another way, you do believe in using torture in extraordinary circumstances.
That would put you in perfect agreement with Bush, myself and thegamerslink. So what is your imagined beef? |
Ah! the good in manure argument, hmm... I think you are more intelligent than that.
You like playing with words don't you John!?!
Bush, John, thegamerslink, the gestapo and me! Could be the title of a book, subtitled 'What Strange Bed Fellows'. I noticed and I ain't happy about it, but there it is.
I don't really have a 'beef'. thegamerslink made assumptions about my position and wanted to discuss them. We're discussing them. So I'm kind of being polite, I guess I could/should have ignored him. But then he does hold an extreme position that I was wondering if he could justify.
Firstly he was ambiguous about whether water boarding was torture, he seems to have finally cleared that one up.
Secondly he seemed to think water boarding was to use his phrase, 'a cake walk'. That one has yet to be examined.
Thirdly he seemed to imply that proof/evidence of wrong doing was unnecessary before torture took place, thereby opening the flood gate for possible cases of innocent individuals being tortured.
I guess if I were to have a 'beef' it would be where the line is drawn.