Youtube removing certain types of videos

[~kev~]

For those of you that video blog, this might be of interest.

I had my first video removed from youtube. The video showed how to skin a squirrel and may have been considered animal cruelty. Even though the squirrel was taken in accordance with the laws of the state of Texas (where I live), and killed in a humane way - that does not matter.

My youtube account received a warning which will last for 6 months. Because of this I have removed several of my other hunting videos before my account gets into any more trouble.

While doing a few google searches to try and find out what is going on, I found a fishing website where a guy posted that youtube had removed one of his hunting videos. According to him, the management of youtube considers hunting animal cruelty. I also found several "animal rights" websites where the members make it a habit of trolling youtube with the sole purpose of reporting hunting videos. On one of these animal rights sites, several people said they report every hunting video they see.

Harassment has been taken to a whole new level. I put a lot of time and effort into these videos in order to promote my site. These people have done more then have my video taken down, they have damaged the amount of traffic my site gets. The total combined views of the videos that I removed and youtube removed equaled about 1,000 - 2,000 views daily. One of the videos had been viewed around 50,000 times.

What do you say about people that force their mindset on others? Its not enough to complain, some of these people are obsessed with forcing those around them to live a certain way.

On top of the hunting videos, youtube is removing videos that dispute the genocide in nazi germany. Even though I find some of these denial videos disturbing, what is more disturbing is that youtube is trying to mute the right to speak. Any video that glorifies nazi germany during the 1930s and 1940s is removed. This is a symbol of national pride to some germans. I disagree with what the nazis did, but I do agree with national pride. This also goes along with freedom of speech.

How does this affect you? If you video blog, and if you post something that offends someone - all they have to do is complain and get their friends to complain. If enough people report your post, the video could be removed and your account could even be deleted.

Videos posted by Greenpeace showing Japanese Dolphin Hunts and Slaughter were removed.

We are not talking about videos that violated someones copyright. These are videos that certain groups of our society thought were offensive. As a result, the management of youtube removed the videos.

The problem is, no matter what you say or do, its going to offend someone. Before you post that video blog, you might want to ask yourself "who" the video could offend.

[Jenie0109]

Originally Posted by ~kev~

killed in a humane way - that does not matter

Im curious about this, LOL

[~kev~]

Originally Posted by Jenie0109

Im curious about this, LOL

Your curious about youtube removing videos? Because that is what this thread is about, not hunting.

[EBORG9]

Unfortunately in this country, just like you said, it's not enough for people to have freedom of their beliefs, they have to force them on everyone.
I agree with you, it is complete BS that they would remove hunting videos, but have no problem showing 15 year old girls dancing in skimpy underwear, or "How to cheat a voting machine".

For some people in America, freedom is only for those that believe a certain way.

I have a video blog that takes videos from various sites, not just You Tube. There are many other places that you can host your videos for free, (as I am sure you know), and use it to your advantage, something like a tag line, "What you won't see on You Tube".

Believe me, my video blog is far more offensive to some, than hunting, and there are 1000's of videos on You Tube in that niche.

You can still use You Tube for a tamer version, to retain some of the traffic benefits.

Unfortunately, You Tube is a private company and not under the control of any federal, state or local government, so Freedom of Speech arguments don't apply, they have the right to host and show what ever they please, how ever they want, just as you would with your own company.

It may be unfair, but You Tube doesn't owe us anything. Their argument will probably be if you want to display hunting videos, host them yourself.

JMO

[CountryBoy]

YouTube has become pretty pathetic when it comes to editing user content. Guess there's too many people threatening to sue their ass!

[~kev~]

From a non-hunter point of view, or from a vegans point of viewing, hunting might seem barbaric. In a way I understand how and why someone might be offended.

However, when I see a cooking show on youtube I think about how that cow, pig or chicken lived and died. That is a lot more grotesque then hunting. How many people try not to think of the cow when they eat a cheeseburger.

There have been teenager stunt videos on youtube that have made me cringe. One kid tried to jump a ditch with his bicycle, only to hit the vertical side of the opposite bank and fall into the water. When he stood up his arm was twisted at a 90 degree angle. The poor kid was screaming in pain, covered in muddy water. But that kind of stuff is ok on youtube?

As time goes on, I see google and youtube censoring more and more. If google would bow before the communist government of china, would the company do the same thing for the US government? If the democratic and republican parties went to youtube and asked that all 3rd party videos be pulled (such as the libertarian party videos), would youtube do so? At that point, would there be real freedom of speech in the USA?

The management of youtube and google is walking a fine line between the rights of the people and oppressive governments.

For those of you that do not see the full picture, the people at youtube are also pulling videos that glorify nazi germany during the 1930s and 1940s. As a comparison, how would we feel if videos about thomas jefferson were pulled from youtube? After all he was an insurgent for the rebellious americans. When is it ok to pick a choose what parts of history are ok to talk about? It seems that some governments are doing just that. And the people at youtube are helping squash the people right to speek.

[ScriptMan]

The management of youtube and google is walking a fine line between the rights of the people and oppressive governments.

Youtube is a company not a government. You and I both publish what we want to publish on our sites. If a user posts content that I do not want, it gets deleted. I imagine you would do the same. Youtube has the same rights.

Host your own videos and when you are told to take them down then and only then will you have the right to scream about some form of oppression.

Most of the rest of your statements I fully agree with.

[~kev~]

Originally Posted by ScriptMan

Youtube is a company not a government. You and I both publish what we want to publish on our sites. If a user posts content that I do not want, it gets deleted. I imagine you would do the same. Youtube has the same rights.

The news we watch in the evening (fox, cnn, nbc, cbs, abc) is a company, but we trust them to tell us the truth. We would not expect CNN to censor a news story, or a story on history. But its ok for youtube to do so?

[ScriptMan]

I am not picking on you must I must disagee again.

The news we watch in the evening (fox, cnn, nbc, cbs, abc) is a company, but we trust them to tell us the truth

Actually I am not that naive. They all spin the stories to suit their editoral purpose. There is no such thing as the objective news reporting of who, what where and when. They all feel the need to address a why.

As custodians of the government controlled public airwaves the broadcast networks do have some obligation to the general public. The cable networks can do whatever they like.

Trying to draw an analogy between a hunting video and censorship of historcal information is a stretch I can't make.

[Larke]

You are very niave if you truly think that none of these North American 'reputable' or 'respectable' companies censor anything. Youtube is owned by Google, isn't it? Google runs the internet. What Google says, goes. That's the way it IS, like it or no.

Every country is actively censoring something publically aired by internet, tv, video or radio.

I feel your pain (and the squirrel's! I am a tree-hugger after all ). It's not fair, or just. It just IS. So, with that in mind, post the videos you know Google/YouTube will remove somewhere else. Adjust. No point wasting time by being upset or inconvenienced by it, really.

[EBORG9]

Dude we all agree with you but you are crossing privately owned companies with government. It doesn't wok like that.
As far as the news networks are concerned, they all have an agenda, they are private as well. It just depends on what spin you want on it.

Look at the difference between CNN, and Fox News. Or MSNBC. They all report the same things, but in a different way.

If your state local, or federal government made it illegal to show or host hunting videos if you are an American company, with a site hosted on U.S. soil, then I could see your outrage, but since you are talking about someone else's company, then you are mad for the wrong reasons.

If you don't like Google, use Yahoo, or MSN, or AOL, Dogpile, Alta Vista, Freeality, or any number of search engines.

If you don't like You Tubes Policies, then host your video on Meta Cafe, Live Leak, Revver, Daily Motion, Break, Veoh, Vimeo, My Space, and so on.

You see this is a democracy, with freedom of choice so you don't have to accept someone else's policies if you don't want because we have a free market society that thrives on competition.

If you were in say China or N. Korea, then you wouldn't have a choice because the government runs everything on the internet.

You are not being censored, you are being invited to exercise your freedom of choice

[my_misyel]

I also had an experience wherein Youtube deleted my account because of Copyrights. Maybe the music that i used in some of the presentation was one of the reason why I got penalized. It's ok, i transferred my videos to other sites and contacted their admin if I did violated any rules. Fortunately, I receive a positive response. From now on, I don't go to Youtube to upload my presentations. I can't imagine other people do violate most but their account still exist.

[KanyeFleming]

well i love animals .
so i think its gd ,you tube removing such videos .


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