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Old 08-09-2011, 12:38 AM
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If I do this to prevent comment spam ??

What do you think if I do this to prevent comment spam ??

Because most of content is written in another language.
if someone would like to comment.
He needs to put a captcha with a specific language.



(But don't just misunderstood.
that websites is not just about another language.
It contains some articles written in English too.)


However, Would you like to try some?

It's really work!!

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You said that you are having the english articles in the website , but if you kept the comment form in your local language than people may confuse about this.
 
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You said that you are having the english articles in the website , but if you kept the comment form in your local language than people may confuse about this.
no no, not like that.
if they go to my website, at ebusinessireader.com
I think, they will understand why I use this local language as a comment,
even if I have some english article too.

^_^! well, At least I just try to think positive.
 
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It can prevent spam almost 100% really!!!

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Old 08-10-2011, 01:43 AM
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Adding Captcha is a good idea, however this may not prevent spam on 100%, there are already many decaptcha services implemented into spamming software.
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The problem with that scheme is that you're basically drawn to smaller scope of traffic and visitors. Say, a user who have landed to your page from Google search but can't read or interact with your webpage, has tendencies to affect your bounce rate and returning visitor data.
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Old 08-10-2011, 04:24 PM
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Adding Captcha is a good idea, however this may not prevent spam on 100%, there are already many decaptcha services implemented into spamming software.
I think this is an advantage.
I don't think anyone would waste time writing programs to decaptcha just a single site.
But you're right, it may not be 100% spam protection, at least for now.

If my web traffic increased in the future.
And it cost effective to do decaptcha to spam in particular.
When that time comes, I could not avoid the need to change the captcha code on my own again.
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Old 08-10-2011, 07:15 PM
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The problem with that scheme is that you're basically drawn to smaller scope of traffic and visitors. Say, a user who have landed to your page from Google search but can't read or interact with your webpage, has tendencies to affect your bounce rate and returning visitor data.
That is a big problem of my site. ^_^!
But I'll try to write articles in English, greater in the later.
I think this will help a lot.
 
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Old 08-13-2011, 06:15 PM
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What do you think if I do this to prevent comment spam ??

Because most of content is written in another language.
if someone would like to comment.
He needs to put a captcha with a specific language.



(But don't just misunderstood.
that websites is not just about another language.
It contains some articles written in English too.)


However, Would you like to try some?

It's really work!!

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Am I missing something here?

The use of math questions as CAPTCHA is age old.

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Old 08-13-2011, 06:17 PM
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The problem with that scheme is that you're basically drawn to smaller scope of traffic and visitors. Say, a user who have landed to your page from Google search but can't read or interact with your webpage, has tendencies to affect your bounce rate and returning visitor data.
Not at all.

This is just a standard use of a math question as CAPTCHA; the language here displayed is purely incidental, and not part of the CAPTCHA process itself.

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It can prevent spam almost 100% really!
That depends on the site and those who target it.

Simple math questions are easily defeated by automatons, as arithmetic has a very small set of operators and operands, all of which are easily translated from their descriptive names to their standard symbols, as well as a small and finite set of operand values, which are translated with equal ease.

A much better method is to present the viewer with an image, and have the him select a word or phrase that correctly describes the image.

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CAPTCHA is definitely not a foolproof solution to prevent spam as there'll always be a loophole to exploit it.

But to reinforce your premise, it's indeed effective at times more so if you tweak the words to not be easily translated by translation services such as Google Translate.
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But to reinforce your premise, it's indeed effective at times more so if you tweak the words to not be easily translated by translation services such as Google Translate.
CAPTCHA evading automatons don't use Google Translate.

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CAPTCHA evading automatons don't use Google Translate.

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Well I never said anything that could possibly translate to that.(pun not intended, lol) That would certainly bring loads of trouble from the Big G.

What I meant is that some sites that aren't using the English language should use a CAPTCHA that can't be easily translated using any translation tool online to further sanitize the comments/user registrations.
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Well I never said anything that could possibly translate to that.(pun not intended, lol) That would certainly bring loads of trouble from the Big G.
CAPTCHA evading automatons don't use any on-line translation tools; they are completely self contained.

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What I meant is that some sites that aren't using the English language should use a CAPTCHA that can't be easily translated using any translation tool online to further sanitize the comments/user registrations.
The language used needs to be one understood by the viewer. And, if being targeted by an automaton, it will be by one designed to understand that language.

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What do you think if I do this to prevent comment spam ??

Because most of content is written in another language.
if someone would like to comment.
He needs to put a captcha with a specific language.



(But don't just misunderstood.
that websites is not just about another language.
It contains some articles written in English too.)


However, Would you like to try some?

It's really work!!

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when i saw the picture, it made me laughed. Spammers will really have a hard time for that. ahaha
(Silly me - peace )
 
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Old 08-15-2011, 12:32 AM
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when i saw the picture, it made me laughed. Spammers will really have a hard time for that.
Given that a spammer is highly unlikely to target sites in languages that he's not familiar with, so that one targeting this site will most likely know the language, why should he have a hard time with it?

The language here depicted has nothing to do with CAPTCHA; that element is here the arithmetic question posed, one which obviously needs to be posed in the language of the intended audience.

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Given that a spammer is highly unlikely to target sites in languages that he's not familiar with, so that one targeting this site will most likely know the language, why should he have a hard time with it?

The language here depicted has nothing to do with CAPTCHA; that element is here the arithmetic question posed, one which obviously needs to be posed in the language of the intended audience.

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Yah, i got your point buddy! I'm only referring to the people who don't know the language, but usually spammers who don't know this targeted site will simply skip with sad faces especially if it has high PR.
 
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Yah, i got your point buddy! I'm only referring to the people who don't know the language, but usually spammers who don't know this targeted site will simply skip with sad faces especially if it has high PR.
Doubtful that they'll be all that sad, considering the billions of other pages that remain for them.

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It seems that opinions vary greatly.

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Who wants to waste time changing the code for a single site?

Right?
 
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