PayPerPost

[Ravs]

I kinda agree PayPerPost does lack in some areas but the only reason i use it is because I don't get good offers (like from v7n) everyday. If i were to get an offer from v7n every day i would gladly give up PPP but i have to have some type of filler for the income gap.

If you ask me PayPerPost has it's problems there support sucks, and i don't think they can follow there own rules but at the same time there service towards publishers is decent (not good, excellent, or any other word used to compliment).

[John Scott]

A lot of v7n Contextual advertisers used to use PayPoorPost.

Quite often we hear that our blog quality is many times higher than PayPerPost. Gives us a warm, fuzzy feeling.

[funbie]

For me i hated Pay per post right from the first day cos there rules are sick,.... they pay less and the assignments they give out are really really weird!!! i donno why there demand is too high while they pay in cents... i just joined V7n since april 16(my first assignment) to May 16 (my last assignment) i earned somewhere around 190$... thats quite enough for someone new!!!

i love v7n and hope i get restored!

[Qurratulain]

@funbie

Agreed!

[DeniseG]

Originally Posted by John Scott

A lot of v7n Contextual advertisers used to use PayPoorPost.

Quite often we hear that our blog quality is many times higher than PayPerPost. Gives us a warm, fuzzy feeling.

I have been admiring your knowledge since coming here, John, and your forums, but I thought you were more mature than that.

And I have no idea how you can compare your blog assignment system to PPP. I have gotten one assignment, 1. I see that the person above me got 2 assignments, 2. There is no way you can compare your service to PPP until you are offering plenty of assignments daily.

[funbie]

Originally Posted by John Scott

A lot of v7n Contextual advertisers used to use PayPoorPost.
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LMFAO @ Pay Poor Post it truly depicts there nature na.... they pay poor and ask for quality posts!~ phew!!!

[sfod_d223]

I totally agree that most of the advertisers that ask for so much within the posts. They make you jump through all kinds of hoops for the paltriest of benefit.

[dragonden]

I'm with Denise. These are two totally different paid blogging systems.

V7 only requires that a link and keyword phrase be fit into a post. A few other companies are doing that now too.

Payperpost sometimes has opportunities that are like that but most require that you talk about the website, product or service in some way. Their advertisers don't just want links, they want reviews and or buzz.

It's two totally different methods of advertising. For one the advertisers just want the backlinks for SEO purposes and for the other the advertisers want more.

John you have a LOT of bloggers here that also do work for Payperpost. Some like their experience and others do not. I know of bloggers that don't like this system either because they can't disclose.

So I'm not sure how or why advertisers are saying the quality of the blogs used here are better when in a lot of cases they're the exact same blogs.

This is the only paid link/post company that I've seen belittling other paid blogging companies on their own forum.

[John Scott]

And I have no idea how you can compare your blog assignment system to PPP. I have gotten one assignment, 1. I see that the person above me got 2 assignments, 2. There is no way you can compare your service to PPP until you are offering plenty of assignments daily.

I'm sorry but I think you are looking at it from the blogger perspective. We look it from the advertiser perspective. The advertiser is the one who's footing the bill. We could give out assignments to any blog that happens upon us, but that wouldn't be responsible stewardship of the advertisers' investment, would it?

[John Scott]

John you have a LOT of bloggers here that also do work for Payperpost.

Not for long. Advertisers complain about being placed on blogs that even mention PayPerPost. We're gradually moving away from any blog that appears to be affiliated with PPP.

This is the only paid link/post company that I've seen belittling other paid blogging companies on their own forum.

This forum is an SEO forum first and foremost. We discuss what is god for SEO, and as an SEO, I do use other contextual services, but I will not use PPP because of the rules they have in place and the quality of their blogs. We reject most PPP blogs on sight - they are generally very poor quality.

[DeniseG]

Ooh, I hate it when people in positions of authority stoop to insults. My blogs are of the highest quality. And as far as your so called "program" you can count me out. At least PPP has the integrity to insist that bloggers disclose, unlike you, John, who insist that the blogger do the opposite, even making sure the blogger deceives the reader by insisting that the post not be disclosed as being paid.

[John Scott]

Originally Posted by DeniseG

Ooh, I hate it when people in positions of authority stoop to insults. My blogs are of the highest quality. And as far as your so called "program" you can count me out.

I did not mention your blog, nor do I even know what kind of blog you run.

In an SEO forum, honestly evaluating SEO offerings is part of the daily routine. It has nothing to do with insults.

[mwilliford]

Originally Posted by John Scott

Not for long. Advertisers complain about being placed on blogs that even mention PayPerPost. We're gradually moving away from any blog that appears to be affiliated with PPP.

I guess that since the $1,500.00 + I've made from Payperpost is way more than the $50.00 I've made here, I'll have a real tough decision to make as to who to be loyal to after that announcement

[John Scott]

Originally Posted by mwilliford

I guess that since the $1,500.00 + I've made from Payperpost is way more than the $50.00 I've made here, I'll have a real tough decision to make as to who to be loyal to after that announcement

I wish you luck with your PPP work. For bloggers, I'm sure PayPerPost is great. But our main focus is not in blogger happiness - it's in advertiser happiness. Our advertisers say they did not like the quality of blog in the PayPerPost system; they say they do not want to be placed on blogs that are affiliated with PayPerPost, and they foot the bill - should I ignore them? Tell them to bugger off?

[mwilliford]

I think you should listen to your advertisers but I don't see how they would say that. Sure there are some low quality blogs there (as I'm sure there are here) but I think the majority of bloggers, whether we do PPP or here, are just out to make our blogs better. My goal is to become a better blogger, gain page rank and alexa rank, and if I can make money then great. I'm not going to saturate my blog with ads in the posts or anywhere else. I have made the most money from Payperpost and they were the first one I discovered so of course my loyalties lie with them. Good luck with your system here.

[John Scott]

Just to clarify, by "low quality blog" we do not mean that the written posts are low quality. We here at v7n are not concerned with the review quality. Our advertisers are 99.9% SEO companies. They want link juice. The most common complaint is that PPP blogs have a high number of sold links on them. One PPP blog had 170 outbound links on it. That dilutes the link juice.

It's not that we are dumping on PPP blogs - it's just that we have to keep our advertisers happy, and they want link popularity from high PR blogs with few outbound links, and no outbound links to viagra sites, debt consolitation sites, etc.

[DeniseG]

Yes, you ARE dumping on PPP blogs and on PPP, calling Pay Poor Post and saying that the blogs are poor quality. If you are going to insult then don't start back pedaling once you are called on the carpet. That just makes you look like a snake.

And for you to defend yourself with all of this talk about SEO makes it even worse, as if that gives you an excuse for anything you say or do. It doesn't. And link juice may be the main concern of advertisers, but quality is the main concern of many bloggers. It is you, sir, who are delusion when it comes to defining quality. SEO and money are more important to you, it seems, than the integrity of your organization or the way you treat the members of your forum. You should be ashamed.

[John Scott]

Yes, you ARE dumping on PPP blogs and on PPP, calling Pay Poor Post and saying that the blogs are poor quality.

From an SEO point of view, they do tend to be poor quality. That is to say, they do not have a lot of high quality inbound links.

If you are going to insult then don't start back pedaling once you are called on the carpet.

Who is backpedaling? I'm simply affirming what I've been saying from the beginning.

snake

Name calling now?

SEO and money are more important to you, it seems, than the integrity of your organization or the way you treat the members of your forum. You should be ashamed.

Money? No. You obviously do not know me. I've refunded thousands of dollars in contextual orders, much of it due to advertiser complaints about PayPerPost blogs. Do not talk to me about money unless you are willing to put your pocketbook where your mouth is.

My priority is customer satisfaction, and the priority of blog publishers should also be customer satisfaction. Bloggers are not our customers, and you are not your own customer. Do not forget who is footing the bill here - advertisers are.

And advertisers do not have a moral obligation to use blogs that do not provide what they need. This isn't charity. This isn't welfare. Entitlement mentalities do not fly here. Utmost respect for the customer does fly.

[scorpy01]

Originally Posted by John Scott

Just to clarify, by "low quality blog" we do not mean that the written posts are low quality. We here at v7n are not concerned with the review quality. Our advertisers are 99.9% SEO companies. They want link juice. The most common complaint is that PPP blogs have a high number of sold links on them. One PPP blog had 170 outbound links on it. That dilutes the link juice.

It's not that we are dumping on PPP blogs - it's just that we have to keep our advertisers happy, and they want link popularity from high PR blogs with few outbound links, and no outbound links to viagra sites, debt consolitation sites, etc.

Well, I guess that would explain why, after receiving almost a dozen offers from you guys, I've gotten less than one per week. Not a big problem since we had a recent family issue so my blogging has slowed down for the past couple weeks.

I'm glad to hear, though, that by quality you are referring to "link juice" rather than the actual writing. I'm proud of my blogs and my writing; I'm more interested in keeping the writing quality high than anything else. Monetizing my blog is secondary

I'm just not sure I understand the complaint from some here about PPP's low paying opps that require jumping through hoops. I seldom take an opp for less than $10 and most are over $15. Nor have I taken opps from PPP for Viagra. In fact, I don't think I've seen any.

I like the opps that PPP offers. One having to do with kids and finance so intrigued me that I did it as a two part post but NOT for PPP; I did it on my own because I loved the site. I guess I'm just really confused about some of the complaints regarding PPP.

I'm also a little biased since PPP funded my trip to Hawaii in March and just afforded me this kickass new computer I'm using to post this. And now, I'm using my PPP money to finally get concrete sidewalks around the side of my house even though I'm nowhere near the top 30 or 40 earners at PPP.

Anyway, I won't give up PPP but I will still be open to any assignments you send my way. If those are fewer because of PPP and advertisers' preferences regarding it, then so be it. To each his own, you know? Let's just not bash PPP with unfounded accusations. Perhaps those who have complained either haven't used them for a while or have low PR blogs? Whatever, my experience with them is very different.