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Old 11-04-2003, 11:28 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Doctype problems

I am having serious problems with people from all over the country being unable to access my website: http://www.willametteweb.us. They can neighter access through Explorer or Netscape; and, probably the same with Opera too.

Bu, I will be darn if I know which DOCTYPE to use. I can read about until I am throughly exhausted and still none of the DOCTYPES seem to work. What is it?

Here is what you can see in the index page:


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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
<html>
<head>
<title>Williamette Webhosting</title>
<META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
<meta name="description" content="Willamette Web Hosting, your one-stop shopping center for all of your web presence needs. Here you will find domain names, webhosting and e-commerce packages for unbelievably low prices, along with the best customer support in the business. That's our guarantee to you, our customer!">
<meta name="keywords" content=<"amazon.com, domain names, domain registration, ecommerce, e-commerce, e-commerce packages, forum, goemerchant, home, information, lmmd-design, web design, webhosting, willamette webhosting, wwh,">
<meta name="robots" content="ALL">
<meta http-equiv="pragma" content="no-cache">
<meta name="revisit-after" content="15">
<meta name="classification" content="Business, Internet">
<meta name="distribution" content="Global">
<meta name="rating" content="Safe For Kids">
<meta name="copyright" content="willamette webhosting/lmmd-design, 2003">
<meta name="author" content="Joseph Allard">
<meta http-equiv="reply-to" content="admin@willamette.us">
<meta name="language" content="English">
<meta name="doc-type" content="Web Page"">
<meta name="doc-class" content="Published">
<meta name="doc-rights" content="Public">
</head>
<LINK href="style.css" type=text/css rel=stylesheet>
<body bgcolor="#B8BCBD" bottommargin="0px">
Can some please enlighten me with the proper DOCTYPE. I would really appreciate it. Thanks.
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Old 11-04-2003, 11:37 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I've got Firebird 0.7 and can see your site as clear as day.
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Old 11-04-2003, 11:45 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I can see the site from Ireland in IE6.0, akthough this is written at the very top:

<"amazon.com, domain names, domain registration, ecommerce, e-commerce, e-commerce packages, forum, goemerchant, home, information, lmmd-design, web design, webhosting, willamette webhosting, wwh,">
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Re: Doctype problems

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<meta name="keywords" content=<"amazon.com, domain names, domain registration, ecommerce, e-commerce, e-commerce packages, forum, goemerchant, home, information, lmmd-design, web design, webhosting, willamette webhosting, wwh,">
You might want to get rid of the "<" after "content="....some of the older and pickier browsers might be having a problem with it.
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Old 11-04-2003, 12:14 PM   #5 (permalink)
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after content=

How do you write meta tags without the "<" after "content="....?
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Like this:

[code:1:6b3fcb31f4]<meta name="keywords" content="amazon.com, domain names, domain registration, ecommerce, e-commerce, e-commerce packages, forum, goemerchant, home, information, lmmd-design, web design, webhosting, willamette webhosting, wwh,">[/code:1:6b3fcb31f4]
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Duh!

Thanks Jazzee. I appreciate your time.
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* breathes in sharply * amazon.com in the keyword tag? Some sites can get touchy with their url/name in other sites code. Not that you're ever going to rank well for it, but you know how possessive some are...
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Update to same problem

Whenever I add a DOCTYPE to my index page--/index.php--it alters the "<!-- offers area --><!-- begin of 1 table -->," alighment.

That is to say, "that instead of it aligning 'left,' it aligns 'center.'" When I delete the DOCTYPE and re-upload it puts everything back to where it should be. So, which DOCTYPE is acceptable? And, why would it cause problems with the source coding?
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What? No Response?

This is what I love about some forums. Waiting for a response is like waiting for the second coming of Christ: And, he is an "absentee landlord."

Should I expect more or less?
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DOCTYPE's tell the browser which 'hymn sheet' it should be singing from.

It's an HTML validation problem.

Begin here - http://validator.w3.org/
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"DOCTYPE's tell the browser which 'hymn sheet' it should be singing from. "

Well put Fruity!

Jalard: for another search term to google, try "quirks mode" - this is like when the browsers decide to stop using the new revision of the hymn sheet and go back to the old one that is a bit more forgiving.
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Conclusion

Well after much research and reading about DOCTYPES I am not qualified to re-write my own. Probably because I didn't fully understand it? Every DOCTYPE that I tried to use --(six in all)-- would alter the alignment of some of the source code. Making everything look aligned "centered," rather than aligned "left."

I guess what it boils down to is either re-write the source code -- the PHP, the CSS, and the HTML -- or not use a DOCTYPE.

Thanks for your help, Really!
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I was going to ask if you've tried no DOCTYPE, sometimes it's the only solution!
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