Which is the Best CMS ?

[Ind30]

I want to build a website consisting of forums, blogs, groups and communities, chat , news and storing of files. Which Content Management System would be best for this?

Please post your Views , CMS Reviews and Guide me

[Chocolate Lime]

If your looking to integrate all of the above look at Joomla for your CMS framework. There's plenty of support and extensions to fit your requirements.

[oknoorap]

Wordrpress is the best...

[g3c0]

Like @Chocolate Lime said, Joomla is the way to go, considering your needs...
use JomSocial for social things, DocMan for files, Kunena for forum... Just an example...
You can find loooads of extensions @: http://extensions.joomla.org/

Just, make sure you take a look at the performance of Joomla, since it needs quite some tweaks before you can give it to a live traffic stream (talking about medium-heavy traffic). It can get very slow...

Personally not a huge fan of Joomla (even though I know it very well) and CMSes in general. Be awesome and build your own website from scratch

Good luck!

[Ind30]

thanks for your precious suggestions.

What do you webmasters think about PHPnuke ?

[allstatefunding]

Originally Posted by Ind30

thanks for your precious suggestions.

What do you webmasters think about PHPnuke ?

I am not a webmaster but i suggest if you want to look for a CMS, the most visible way to look at cmsmatrix.org, and maybe you can find many ways to create your own layout and structures from other system such as Dupral or Joomla.

[jamoB]

Wordpress is the best as far as i know

[clorets01]

If you're not into coding too much you could go with joomla + k2 extension. After a while you could learn how to write your own modules and even your own components/plugins using the joomla framework.

[aiabmovers]

so far wordpress are the most popular for CMS available, compare to drupal and joomla it is more flexible and great site for blogging, you can even add more great pages and new features using wordpress.

[Kesava]

I'd recommend Wordpress, I used to use Joomla because people always told me that Wordpress was mainly for blogs, but after trying it I realised it was very easy to work with and I was able to create a professional looking website a lot faster and with better features.

Although, as far as I know, Wordpress doesn't have any decent document management plugins, Joomla is far better for that sort of stuff. I could be wrong, but I researched it recently and came to that conclusion.

[theprodigy]

Wordpress for the basic websites, Drupal for the more complex ones.

Joomla is poor at SEO and security I would not recommend it.

So for the topicstarter I would advise using Drupal.

[Reakon]

I've no experience with Drupal so my advise is not 100% fair.

But I would go for joomla because it's way more flexible and has more extensions.

edit:

While googling I found some nice information, someone commented this somewhere:

Drupal is like Joomla. Both CMS had their glory time. Both CMS were at high level a few years ago.

I know them both quite well for having used them several years. But I do not use them anymore, or only if a customer insists to have them (but this happens very seldom).

I do not use them anymore because today you find much better CMS: Modx, Silverstripe, Expression Engine to name just a few.
This new generation of CMS have little to compare with the 'old CMS': Drupal, Joomla, e107, etc.
Their whole philosophy is different.

Here are a few examples:
- Excellent caching (site performance and speed). Drupal and Joomla are both slow. Drupal becomes very slow once you have added a bunch of midules.
- Easy and flexible template system (you build whatever you want) with easy and full support of web standards (XHTML, CSS and Javascript). Forget Drupal and Joomla here. You will waste a lot of time and never be satisfied with the results.
- Well tested and bug-free (not like Drupal that has always security issues. Joomla is much better here.)
- Well documented: Drupal has a lot of information, but is it rather incomplete and not structured. Often it is outdated.
- Ressource (or asset) management. Drupal has never be able to have one. That means you can not manage the site pictures, or any other files properly.
Almost unbelievable, but Drupal has no file management.
This is due to the fact that ALL ressources (pictures, any files) are owned by a 'node' and not by the user. It will be a hard work for Drupal to change that, and I don't believe they ever will be able to do such a change.

The big issue with Drupal is once you have installed it you have a skeleton, this means for instance:
- no pictures!!!
- no editors
- a poor administration
- no spam protection
- no SEO
- no query
- no possibity to add no fields in pages
- no pingback / trackback
- no XML sitemaps
- no file browsing
- No communication (sending e-mails, messaging, etc.)
- etc.

In Drupal you can have most of these features in adding modules.
This is a big issue very well analysed by Jean: you would need to add and activate around 80 modules to have a decent website.
Modules are rarely up-to-date and if core has moved to a new version, you are always in conflict between 'old version' modules and 'new version' modules.

Worse, module developement is community driven. Very often, the module owner stops his developement after a few years of work and leave the community without follow up. This is a big issue when you have site in production. It ends often in paying huge amount to get customized developement.

The next issue due to modules is site speed: the more you add modules in Drupal, the slower it becomes. If you build a Drupal site with decent features, site speed will be a big issue.
You can use all caching option, add cache modules, etc. Speed will always be an issue.
I use only dedicated servers. That means Drupal speed problem is not due to hardware. Really, I would not like to have Drupal installed on a shared server.

The new generation of CMS have most of above mentionned features (and much more) in core. This mean by each new release, all these feature are up-to-date: you avoid the Drupal nightmare.

Thanks to their excellent caching system, speed with the new generation of CMS is just not an issue at all.
They are lightweight, literally flying. Highly flexible, performant, of course fully featured.

So may it would be a option to go to look around a bit:
http://modxcms.com/
http://expressionengine.com/ (wa, it looks like WP)
http://www.silverstripe.com/

[manzar]

i think Wordpress is best because, the strong point of WordPress is the abundance of plugins that have been designed by independent developers.

[raicol]

Both blogger and wordpress is good but blogger is easy so try to learn wordpress.


Regards,
Raicol

[inspirohost]

Wordpress is my all-time favorite: very powerful and customizable.

[theprodigy]

Originally Posted by Reakon

I've no experience with Drupal so my advise is not 100% fair.

But I would go for joomla because it's way more flexible and has more extensions.

edit:

While googling I found some nice information, someone commented this somewhere:

Quote:
Drupal is like Joomla. Both CMS had their glory time. Both CMS were at high level a few years ago.Drupal is raising at the moment Joomla is getting less.

I know them both quite well for having used them several years. But I do not use them anymore, or only if a customer insists to have them (but this happens very seldom). When I read the hole post I doubt you know both.

I do not use them anymore because today you find much better CMS: Modx, Silverstripe, Expression Engineis commercial and not opensource no way you can compare this! to name just a few.
This new generation of CMS have little to compare with the 'old CMS': Drupal, Joomla, e107, etc. I think I can do with just CCK, Views and Panels as much as you need with Joomla with 15-20 modules.
Their whole philosophy is different.

Here are a few examples:
- Excellent caching (site performance and speed). Drupal and Joomla are both slow. Drupal becomes very slow once you have added a bunch of midules. Proof? Google drupal performance test and you will see it is not true.
- Easy and flexible template system (you build whatever you want) with easy and full support of web standards (XHTML, CSS and Javascript). Forget Drupal and Joomla here. You will waste a lot of time and never be satisfied with the results. Drupal is build by developers for developers. The template system can not be compared with Wordpress but it isnt hard either..
- Well tested and bug-free (not like Drupal that has always security issues. Joomla is much better here.) Which security issues? Most websites which are hacked or defaced are running Joomla.
- Well documented: Drupal has a lot of information, but is it rather incomplete and not structured. Often it is outdated. Not true either. There are lots of information and tutorials available just on the website of Drupal.
- Ressource (or asset) management. Drupal has never be able to have one. That means you can not manage the site pictures, or any other files properly. It has but it offers you a choose. In many other CMSes they just give you no option what to use and how in Drupal you have that option.
Almost unbelievable, but Drupal has no file management. Read previous point.
This is due to the fact that ALL ressources (pictures, any files) are owned by a 'node' and not by the user. It will be a hard work for Drupal to change that, and I don't believe they ever will be able to do such a change. ???

The big issue with Drupal is once you have installed it you have a skeleton, this means for instance:
- no pictures!!! it has
- no editors it has, it has only no default so you can pick the one you like for me thats FCK.
- a poor administration This is pure personal I think
- no spam protection Nonsense for example it supports reCAPTCHA and Mollom. The last one Mollom is another product of the Drupal founder and used by several companies like Sony, Adobe, Warner Bros Records, NBC, Fox News and so onhttp://mollom.com/testimonials
- no SEO it has. Personally I think it is Joomla which fail here. No clean urls when extensions are used. And for further optimization you need to change the core files. Changing core files is not done.
- no query ???
- no possibity to add no fields in pages I beg your pardon? Drupal is famous of their content construction kit. It is not Drupal who fail here but Joomla and they try to fix that in the new releases.
- no pingback / trackback it has
- no XML sitemaps it has
- no file browsing it has
- No communication (sending e-mails, messaging, etc.) it has
- etc.

In Drupal you can have most of these features in adding modules.
This is a big issue very well analysed by Jean: you would need to add and activate around 80 modules to have a decent website. That is really depending on your demands most website I have (never really counted but 80 is a lot lol) dont come around that amount.
Modules are rarely up-to-date and if core has moved to a new version, you are always in conflict between 'old version' modules and 'new version' modules. This hole paragraph is full of nonsens. Dont want to spend much time on it. But it is more Joomla who needs for every feature a paid module. Take for example community builder if I want a search function I need to pay for a search plugin. In Drupal SEARCH does what it says no need for new modules etc. Beside that I never had problems with outdated modules. Most modules (the most used) are already for Drupal 7 the new release of Drupal, this while version 7 isnt even official out yet. The developers of the core and modules work really together to maintain a good end-product when I used Joomla I really missed this.

Worse, module developement is community driven. Very often, the module owner stops his developement after a few years of work and leave the community without follow up. This is a big issue when you have site in production. It ends often in paying huge amount to get customized developement. I never experienced any of this. It happens that a project gets a new maintainer because of whatever reason.

The next issue due to modules is site speed: the more you add modules in Drupal, the slower it becomes. If you build a Drupal site with decent features, site speed will be a big issue.
You can use all caching option, add cache modules, etc. Speed will always be an issue.
I use only dedicated servers. That means Drupal speed problem is not due to hardware. Really, I would not like to have Drupal installed on a shared server. There are several tests on the internet which show that Drupal is faster with and without the default caching.

The new generation of CMS have most of above mentionned features (and much more) in core. This mean by each new release, all these feature are up-to-date: you avoid the Drupal nightmare. Drupal has a long learning curve because of its options. If you understand Drupal you can build any website you want.

Thanks to their excellent caching system, speed with the new generation of CMS is just not an issue at all.
They are lightweight, literally flying. Highly flexible, performant, of course fully featured.
So may it would be a option to go to look around a bit:
http://modxcms.com/
http://expressionengine.com/ (wa, it looks like WP)
http://www.silverstripe.com/

Drupal is used by many large enterprise companies or organizations like Sony, MTV, Fox, Greenpeace, Amnesty International, Openoffice Extensions, MotoGP, Yahoo research, Novell Communities, AOL, Playboy.de, Harvard science, goverments like the American White House, celebrities like Britney Spears and so on. Which big sites or companies are build with Joomla?

Wordpress is famous because it is the best out of the box. Then you have Drupal which is more like a framework and offers much more options as CMSes like Joomla or ModX.

[Reakon]

Thanks the prodigy, it was an one-view opinion. Now I know something more about it
But I looked to the drupal back-end and I just don't like it how it works.

May I will learn it sometime, but now I'm going to look fome some other options

[sherifmayika]

Though Drupal's Back-end is less intuitive, it will better in future, take some time to learn Drupal. You won't be disappointed

[RichestGirl]

for CMS I love Joomla
for e-commerce I Love osCommerce.
for Gallery I Love Plogger

thanks

[mangome]

You need something big - joomla/drupal and a good developer