How hard is it to learn programming? - Page 3

wulaishiwo · Share | #41 (**permalink**) 04-07-2011, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by lair360

I learn to read codes when I was 9 years old. It's a little weird... but, I can now write HTML, PHP and all these other languages for my website. Its also a breeze to save money as I don't have to fork out thousands of pounds for a web template.

By the way , how old are you?

saicou · #42 (**permalink**) 04-08-2011, 01:42 AM

this depends on the books, the labor you put into and way you are reasoning.
someone they have a good mathmatic reasoning mind would learn fast. if me, I will give up since I don't have a good mathmatic mind.

Dan Williamson · #43 (**permalink**) 04-08-2011, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by saicou

this depends on the books, the labor you put into and way you are reasoning.
someone they have a good mathmatic reasoning mind would learn fast. if me, I will give up since I don't have a good mathmatic mind.

Although Mathematical understanding is necessary for certain elements in programming, it's generally your basic arithmetic and very basic algebra, only in sort of graphics areas when dealing with vectors and matrices etc does Mathematics become very important. I know numerous programmers whose Mathematical skill isn't great, but they're still fantastic programmers.

**snakeair** · #44 (**permalink**) 04-08-2011, 10:47 PM

Here is some stuff for all you coders.

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Ruby may have lost some of its shine in recent months to JavaScript and Node.js, but it's still one of the most popular programming languages out there, and it's still growing.

There are a large number of beginner's Ruby resources out there, and the material is diverse. Here are a few places to get started.

Continued at: http://www.readwriteweb.com/hack/201...uby-for-be.php

dominicyordz · #45 (**permalink**) 06-22-2011, 03:47 PM

I agree with Dan Williamson. It is an ongoing process.

My advice is to read books. Start with the basics. Try starting with Python.

MyUserNameRocks · #46 (**permalink**) 06-22-2011, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan Williamson

To those that say you can learn the basics of programming in a day or so, you are wrong in every way. You can learn the basic syntax and how to use it to create very basic linear applications that have nothing meaningful in them in a day yes.

I take issue with statement. While I agree that syntax can be a stumbling block to some people syntax is very language specific and therefore not a programming fundamental. The basics of programming can be taught without even using a programming language. The concepts of:

variables
operators
expressions
arrays
if, then, else
functions
classes and objects

Just to name a few, are at the heart of every programming language regardless of language (aside from maybe classes and objects but most modern languages have adopted and OO approach). I've taught people these concepts before without even touching real code (using pseudo-code though).

I don't believe it is enough to simply show someone a code example and a result and expect them to just understand how it works. Fundamentals of programming have to be taught first and I believe that any reasonable smart person with a good understanding of algebra will pick up these concepts quickly.

Now obviously they won't be creating pretty code or elegant solutions right away but understanding the basics will help them immensely when it comes to refactoring.

ppetrid · #47 (**permalink**) 06-27-2011, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan Williamson

Once again I must ask for clarification. Your English is fine, therefore a none-issue, perhaps it's just my pedantic nature. You say basic language, yet use examples of Java/C++ which are two of the more complex languages, a basic language to me would be BASIC which has it's own complexities but it's generally more basic.

I wouldn't classify any real programming language as basic, you may mean basic for you and I can fully respect that, but they're each complex in their own ways.

Well, it depends! Each language has its strengthens & weaknesses but it's really on what you want to do. For example, learning Java/C++ would enable you to understand object-oriented programming, learn its concepts and practices. Python or PHP support object-oriented programming as well but are mainly scripting languages not suitable for learning object-oriented coding. Python can be great for beginners, as it showcases some programming concepts like call-by-reference, makes it easy to built Graphical user interfaces and forces the programmer to write clean code etc. Finally, it is generally accepted that C is the way to go in order to understand how does memory work and what happens behind the scenes when code is being executed.

At any case, always try to understand the logic behind the code; the language should be just a means to express your algorithms.

g36 · #48 (**permalink**) 06-27-2011, 07:52 AM

It takes couple days to master it if you have background in other programming languages. Programming language from one language to another is similar and it works similar.

UmerGurchani · #49 (**permalink**) 06-27-2011, 10:33 PM

Learning Programming is not a hard thing to do, but you would be able make anything unless you gain full expertise in it and this takes time...so you should first learn the basic and keep on practising

paulkingston · #50 (**permalink**) 06-28-2011, 09:03 AM

if you are learning from teacher it will take time and it will be a long process if you are learning yourself this will be short term process

**snakeair** · #51 (**permalink**) 06-28-2011, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by paulkingston

if you are learning from teacher it will take time and it will be a long process if you are learning yourself this will be short term process

I know we have a lot of resources and advice in here already but do you have any new resources to share with us?

Any good books online to purchase?

richardcliffy · #52 (**permalink**) 06-30-2011, 10:16 AM

First all you have to learn C language. Afterwards you can move on .net or Java. For web designing you should learn first HTML and CSS.

Dan Williamson · #53 (**permalink**) 06-30-2011, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by richardcliffy

First all you have to learn C language. Afterwards you can move on .net or Java. For web designing you should learn first HTML and CSS.

Why do you have to learn C? Also HTML and CSS isn't programming.

**snakeair** · #54 (**permalink**) 07-04-2011, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by abhis

these are many advantage of open source programming language ,but some problem arise the hard

Can you name a few Advantages?

ppetrid · #55 (**permalink**) 07-04-2011, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan Williamson

Why do you have to learn C? Also HTML and CSS isn't programming.

HTML: Hypertext Markup Language

Not a programming language indeed

genich99 · #56 (**permalink**) 07-05-2011, 07:57 AM

If you have a passion for it, you have very good chances to master it.

admrkhu · #57 (**permalink**) 07-06-2011, 05:20 AM

It al depends on the teacher and /or the material

bravossbrave · #58 (**permalink**) 07-08-2011, 10:59 AM

It depends on you teacher and if you learn by yourself then you have good material. To learn programming is not very hard. You just understand concept of it. If your concepts are clear than you can learn any language easily. First lean some language like C,C++. After that you can easily move to .Net or Java.

fooini · #59 (**permalink**) 07-09-2011, 10:15 AM

its a process and depends on the field you'll be practicing in. formal ed prefers vb, java, c stuff, while many self taught coders nowadays are learning with more so scripting style languages like php and javascript.

bravossbrave · #60 (**permalink**) 07-09-2011, 11:37 AM

It is not hard to learn programming language. To learn any programming language your concept of it should be clear. For that you should learn some basic language like C and HTML. After clearing concept of it you can easily move to any programming language. You can go with .NEt or Java. HTML and CSS are good for web designing.