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03-07-2006, 08:32 PM
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v7n Mentor
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Ad-Revenue Sharing on DP is bad for potential Google AdSense websites
Alright I was banned from DP and I asked the guy to just close my account, but he won't. I left my Google AdSense ID on my username and, well, I get useless impressions every now and then.
This in a fact is actually bad for me and the small article I wrote explains it at:
http://www.redscowl-bluesingsky.us/a...is-bad-for-ctr
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This article is to prove why Ad-Revenue Sharing is a bad thing for Google AdSense in most cases. We all know that DigitalPoint has an Ad-Revenue sharing forum. It is never good to gain any clicks, only impressions.
On a personal basis, my DP Account was suspended and the Revenue still flows in from DP every now and then (tons of impressions), however, I get a lot of clicks on my game website:
http://games.cecilsabu.com/
The value of impressions is decreasing right now due to the fact that I am getting so many impressions on DP but not enough click-throughs…If you are a webmaster with websites which have potential Google AdSense revenue, don’t use Ad-Revenue Sharing Methods on forums, since nobody clicks on them anymore.
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Also, I seem to be getting around 400 impressions a day with people playing games..is there anyone in particular I should be thanking for all that referrals or was it just Google AdWords, since I didn't spend much money on it...
Is spreading my website by word-of-mouth throughout my friends causing all this traffic??
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03-14-2006, 10:24 AM
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"don’t use Ad-Revenue Sharing Methods on forums, since nobody clicks on them anymore."
No one clicks on ads in forums? I'm sure quite a few people could argue that point.
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03-14-2006, 10:37 AM
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CEO, V7 Inc
Join Date: 09-27-03
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I do not use DP's Adsense revenue sharing thing, although I am a member there, so I cannot comment on that.
But I will comment on Adsense in Forums.
On Suzuki-Bikes.com we the moderators have their Adsense on the site, on on the Motorcycle-Journal.com forums. When the Adsense was removed from the site and left only on the forums, the adsense dropped like 90%. It's amazing how little people click on Adsense when it's on forums.
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03-14-2006, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnScott
I do not use DP's Adsense revenue sharing thing, although I am a member there, so I cannot comment on that.
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I've turned it on and turned it off over there...no real noticeable impact on earnings either way.
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Originally Posted by JohnScott
But I will comment on Adsense in Forums.
On Suzuki-Bikes.com we the moderators have their Adsense on the site, on on the Motorcycle-Journal.com forums. When the Adsense was removed from the site and left only on the forums, the adsense dropped like 90%. It's amazing how little people click on Adsense when it's on forums.
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Adsense CTR on forums is without a doubt lower than on a "normal" webpage. The theory (which I agree with) is a typical forum member will generate a higher number of pageviews that a typical "website" viewer will which results in a lower CTR. Case in point I've probably already generated a few hundred pageviews here today.
I was just pointing out that the blanket statement "people don't click on ads in forums" is incorrect.
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03-14-2006, 10:54 AM
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CEO, V7 Inc
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Originally Posted by GuyFromChicago
I was just pointing out that the blanket statement "people don't click on ads in forums" is incorrect.
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Yes, that would be incorrect as a blanket statement. I recall one site we run (100% forum) making $1,500 a month.
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03-14-2006, 11:11 AM
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Yeah but think about it, if yo put a leaderboard underneat the first post, most people will get accustomed to it and just find it a nuisance and skip it, like I do..
I usually try to find what other people have to say right below it also..so I just ignore these ads.
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03-14-2006, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by sixty6
Yeah but think about it, if yo put a leaderboard underneat the first post, most people will get accustomed to it and just find it a nuisance and skip it, like I do..
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Regular members of a forum tend to become "ad blind". Guests on the other hand....
I've never actually tracked it but I bet guests click on ads 10 to 1 when compared to members.
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03-14-2006, 12:46 PM
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IMO
If you are getting good CPC and you know why CTR is low then there is no need to worry.
!) I don't share DP's adsense revenue because i know its useless.
@) Why you got bannnnnnned .... $%^*) 
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03-14-2006, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by GuyFromChicago
Regular members of a forum tend to become "ad blind". Guests on the other hand....
I've never actually tracked it but I bet guests click on ads 10 to 1 when compared to members.
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Most of the time guests are forum pros OR they become members...no difference..
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03-14-2006, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by sixty6
Most of the time guests are forum pros OR they become members...no difference..
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What are you basing that on? I doubt the thousands of people who visit my game forum (via the SE's) are "forum pros" and based on my registrations vs total traffic I would say that most don't register.
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03-14-2006, 06:46 PM
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Ok think about it like this:
DP has over a million pages of good content and is in the top listings for A LOT of keywords..
Now all the traffic delivered to them AND the amount of members they have only helps a person want to join.
This is just my opinion, that's how I joined...
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03-15-2006, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by sixty6
Ok think about it like this:
DP has over a million pages of good content and is in the top listings for A LOT of keywords..
Now all the traffic delivered to them AND the amount of members they have only helps a person want to join.
This is just my opinion, that's how I joined...
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I wouldn't argue that...but how does that relate to your comment;
"Most of the time guests are forum pros OR they become members...no difference.."
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03-15-2006, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by sixty6
It is never good to gain any clicks, only impressions.
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News flash: I've got 97 clicks there. egad...two days ago I got four clicks!!!! Congratulations! Your credibility has been destroyed. How about leting the real pros make these articles. 
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03-16-2006, 04:25 PM
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nino, you post like a million posts a day and start so many threads every 5 seconds...I don't sit in front of a computer doing this...
I made $3 via AdSense WITH DP, but now make around $7.50 without it, because of the good clickthrough rates on my sites..
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03-16-2006, 07:15 PM
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Sounds like sour grapes to me.
I post infrequently on DP and other adsense sharing forums, and earn a small from it - personally, I don't care either way.
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03-16-2006, 07:18 PM
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v7n Mentor
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hmm...well you're the boss! I personally hate it because I get few impressions on my site, but get a lot of click-throughs...
DP on the other hand gets LOTS of impressions, but most people are ignoring them.....
AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH I don't know what to think..
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03-16-2006, 08:00 PM
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Join Date: 02-20-06
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Well I removed mine and I must admit my click amounts on my sites went up over 30% the very next day.
Coincidence?
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