Adsense Leeches??

[helloworld]

Any advise on how to stop the parasitic leeches that buy up low paying keywords and convert them to high paying keywords?

I am sure you all have experienced it at one time, they get their ads on one of your web sites which leads the visitors to nothing but a page with worthless gibberish and a few cleverly placed adsense ads with high paying keywords.

This really should be against the TOS!

The ad filter seems to be worthless for a few on them.

[Albert Tai]

Then stop using adsense. Use ypn or adbrite.

[Lorelei]

well, i heard that its happening to some and they block the sites that offer low paying keywords (as "competitive sites" or something) dunno if its allowed though.

some clicks i get 2$, some 0.01$... all related to same theme, i'd wanna know how to block the low paying keywords, or at least to know which keywords are low, so maybe i wouldnt use them, or replace them with similar ones

[helloworld]

It's a big problem and I look at it as stealing from legit webmasters.
It's really nothing more than spam.

It would be different if they actually offered a service instead of an optimized page, and tricky ads.

Anyone have good experiences with YPN?

[StupidScript]

While I agree that the sites you describe are one of the true scourges of the web, I'm not sure how it's stealing from AdSense publishers ...

AS publishers get paid when people click through from their site, not from any conversion on the other side, in the crappy sites. Perhaps there is an impression of cheesiness left in the visitor's mouth for your site, as a result, but otherwise it's kind of an intangible negative.

I also agree with others that those kinds of sites should be jettisoned by Google (and the MUCH more massive quantity of similar sites on YPN). As an AdWords advertiser, they REALLY get under my skin when I find my bill contains a bunch of clicks from people simply trying to get off of those sites.

[helloworld]

Originally Posted by StupidScript

While I agree that the sites you describe are one of the true scourges of the web, I'm not sure how it's stealing from AdSense publishers

Well the whole point is for legit webmasters to send traffic to legit advertisers, the sites I describe do nothing but play middle man with spam, so in a sense it's stealing from the advertiser, and publishers. More often than not if the content is quality IE: a service of some sort, both the publishers and the advertisers make money.

But what happens when this type of website gets involved?
It lowers the prices on the clicks, CTR goes down, and it annoys the visitor.
The worst part is they get paid to do it!

The system is seriousley flawed!

[Jack F]

the site in your sig is breaking tos of adsense, might wanna fix it if you become somewhat popular. Takes but one surfer to email adsense.

[Lorelei]

Originally Posted by E.Scape

the site in your sig is breaking tos of adsense, might wanna fix it if you become somewhat popular. Takes but one surfer to email adsense.

i checked both.. where is the violation?

[helloworld]

Originally Posted by E.Scape

the site in your sig is breaking tos of adsense, might wanna fix it if you become somewhat popular. Takes but one surfer to email adsense.

Now that's intresting, that website is new and rather experimental, a project I helped my wife with.

Violation eh?

Where?

Are you refering to:

You agree not to display on the same Web page in connection with which any Ad Unit, Ad, Link, Search Box, or Referral Button is displayed (a "Serviced Page") any advertisement(s) that an end user of Your Site(s) would reasonably confuse with a Google advertisement or otherwise associate with Google. If You have elected to receive content or Site-based Ads, You further agree not to display on any Serviced Page any non-Google content-targeted advertisement(s).

It doesn't fall under either, so I have no idea????

[Jack F]

the images next to the ad.. ill dig my email for the warning i received and if i find it ill paste it here.


i didnt wanna make a big post about it, only wanted you to help yourself by checking it out.. adsense has a tendency to cancel account and keep the revenue earned without warning. And appealing doesnt always get it back for you. I had the warning about 2 weeks ago, i immediately took the images down and looked over all of my sites knowing not to mess with them when terms and policies are concerned.

[StupidScript]

I agree with E.Scape ... ya gotta play by Yahoo's published rules. If it's _not_ published, you may be able to bend it a little, but the published stuff is definitely working properly in their seek-and-destroy algorithms.

[Jack F]

This is a portion of the email I received from adsense recently... i replaced the domainname referenced.

Hello,

While reviewing your account, we noticed that you are currently displaying Google ads in a manner that is not compliant with our policies. For instance, we found violations of AdSense policies on pages such as www.domainname.com.

Publishers are not permitted to encourage users to click on Google ads or bring excessive attention to ad units. For example, your site cannot contain phrases such as "click the ads," "support our sponsors," "visit these recommended links," or other similar language that could apply to the Google ads on your site. Publishers may not use arrows or other symbols to direct attention to the ads on their sites, and publishers may not label the Google ads with text other than "sponsored links" or "advertisements."

The issues you can lose your adsense account over (at their discretion) are in bold. I hope you take this post from me as some guy just helping you out. I don't want you to take offence. Either way, hurry up and fix it before another myspace site sends an email to the Google Adsense Team.

I've researched adsense immensily this past week, in particular terms and policies, issues from advertisers, publishers, you name it. It's apparent to me that the rabbit is against the tos, and may get you a warning, the chicks rack though may get a button press disabling your account and losing any money they owe you. Theres quite a movement going on of unhappy publishers who have been disabled, they talk, they plan, they click, they send emails causing mayhem.. it's crazy I tell ya.

[StupidScript]

Geez ... did I say Yahoo!? It's been a long day ...

[helloworld]

Originally Posted by E.Scape

This is a portion of the email I received from adsense recently... i replaced the domainname referenced.



The issues you can lose your adsense account over (at their discretion) are in bold. I hope you take this post from me as some guy just helping you out. I don't want you to take offence. Either way, hurry up and fix it before another myspace site sends an email to the Google Adsense Team.

I've researched adsense immensily this past week, in particular terms and policies, issues from advertisers, publishers, you name it. It's apparent to me that the rabbit is against the tos, and may get you a warning, the chicks rack though may get a button press disabling your account and losing any money they owe you. Theres quite a movement going on of unhappy publishers who have been disabled, they talk, they plan, they click, they send emails causing mayhem.. it's crazy I tell ya.

Hey np opinions are appreciated, but I still do not see where this website falls under any of that. All ads are clearly stated to be ads by google, no direct attention is placed on any ads please clarify???

Anyone else see this?

[helloworld]

Originally Posted by E.Scape

the images next to the ad.. ill dig my email for the warning i received and if i find it ill paste it here.

Don't get me wrong I appreciate the advise, but there is no where on that site that the ads will not be next to an image.

Adsense doesn't want you using images that are asumed to be being served by google, It's obviouse that the images are in no way served by google.

There are plenty of websites using images next to ads, many gaming websites do this, as long as it apparent that they are not served by google, or they have a visable border they are allowed.

[Jack F]

Originally Posted by helloworld

Don't get me wrong I appreciate the advise, but there is no where on that site that the ads will not be next to an image.

Adsense doesn't want you using images that are asumed to be being served by google, It's obviouse that the images are in no way served by google.

There are plenty of websites using images next to ads, many gaming websites do this, as long as it apparent that they are not served by google, or they have a visable border they are allowed.

The email i received last week was for exactly the same issue i described on your site. I also thought it was fine based on so many people doing it. They made it very clear based on the snippet of email i pasted above that in fact it is not acceptable, and was given 3 days to remove the image or be disabled.

Do as you like. I'm not over stating anything and even placed the paste of the email above excluding the domain name. I can probably take the time to decipher the words and terms in the email listed but I have things to do. Either take my word for it or ask a friend about it, or read the email i pasted here in this thread. The site they approached me on had an ad just like yours, and that was the issue, and the terms involved was sent to me through email, which happens to be the snippet i pasted above. And please stop quoting all my text, i like to delete stuff sometimes and Quoting leaves that impossible. If Quotes were disabled I would have pasted the entire email to read and edited it out afterwards.

[Jack F]

I just looked at your site, you fixed it with a border between the ad and the image and removed the ad which was touching the rack'o'breasts that was there yesterday. That should help, but for your own sake read their terms, and policies. Even changing the adcode from its original form is enough for them to cancel your account and keep all your revenue, even if they owe you 10 thousand. if you choose a bg color in the ad, be sure the color code is in their choices menu. Your not allowed to manually set colors.

[helloworld]

Although I must admit it was lacking the border on the right side due to the fact only a complete moron would associate the two, I have corrected that, since it doesn't compromise my website design a whole lot.

The ads are placed by php, and I didn't technically move it

Honestly I look at it this way, I am not trying to deceive the visitor, unlike many websites I have seen, but as long as I make enough to cover the hosting that's all I care about with or without google.

When I put a website together it's not "made for adsense", and despite the stories, unless your myspace or about your not going to make a bundle with adsense!

Way too much adsense hype going around and to be honest adsense encourages spam.

My point? I'll run their ads, and make a "little money" in a legit way but my website is not going to look awful!

But this is totally off topic this wasn't about any websites in my sig, so I am done with it.

Thanks again for your opinion

[Jack F]

Ditto!

Good luck with yer stuff helloworld.

[helloworld]

thanks, good luck to you also.