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10-23-2006, 09:15 PM
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Easily Outraged
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Is the web too saturated now to make significant money with adsense in a niche?
I have been thinking for a while that I would like try and see how well I can do as far as making money with Google Adsense or YPN. However, I don't want to be just another made for adsense site.
My question is: Is it too late to try to get into this area and is it just not worthwhile?
I know big sites can make big bucks, but that's true for most older sites.
If i wanted to give this a go, where should i start and do you have any resources I can read more about this?
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10-23-2006, 09:18 PM
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Moved. 
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10-23-2006, 09:20 PM
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Thanks. my bad 
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10-23-2006, 11:20 PM
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i wouldnt say the its saturated.
what i would say is the users are not gullible nowadays. they can differentiate between an ad and content far easily than before.
hence the difficulty in make money with adsense.
having said that, if your market has a lot of teens or for that matter older audience, then you can.
these users may know its an ad but not really "bother" abt it.
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10-23-2006, 11:38 PM
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I think as long as you have a large number of visitors there will always be click throughs thats just how sales works. No its not too saturated you just need luck.
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10-24-2006, 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ninjashoes
I think as long as you have a large number of visitors there will always be click throughs thats just how sales works. No its not too saturated you just need luck.
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I agree, earnings in adsense will always depend on the site traffic, the more traffic the more earnings and ofcourse it will depends on the niche.
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10-24-2006, 12:52 AM
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You are not too late -- but certainly there is now more competition the niches which used to earn $5/click is now at $0.5 but certainly by the time internet users are also increasing (means traffic on internet) but at the same to more competition is also poured in by webmasters.
At the end i would say must try and work hard you will find more ways to earn than just PPC. 
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10-24-2006, 01:01 AM
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I feel that when you write about topics that you truly have interest in (not just the value of the clicks) it makes a substantial difference in your financial results. I think a response that I made in the blogging forum applies to this same situation that you are asking about. http://www.v7n.com/forums/472203-post3.html
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10-24-2006, 06:54 AM
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- Web surfers are more savvy about AdSense
- AdWords advertisers are smarter about how they bid/spend money
- Most lucrative niches have decent competition now
These are all true, and, you can still make money with sites/AdSense. I agree with Cricket in that you should really concentrate your efforts on subjects that you find interesting/rewarding. If it's not a labor of love, the site will most likely not be very rewarding either financially (because you won't go the extra mile to make it cool/interesting/perfect) or spiritually (because you don't really care about it).
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10-24-2006, 10:48 AM
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Very good advice.
I do believe the future of adsense related income is in sites targetted to kids and teens who don't know any better or are thrilled by the provocative ads.
We'll see, I have some ideas up my sleeve.
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12-03-2006, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Nick
Very good advice.
I do believe the future of adsense related income is in sites targetted to kids and teens who don't know any better or are thrilled by the provocative ads.
We'll see, I have some ideas up my sleeve.
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Don't get your hopes up too much. My Neopets site's revenues are down 70%, while traffic is up 300% compared to this time last year. CTR is down by like 70% aswell.
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12-07-2006, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Thanol
Don't get your hopes up too much. My Neopets site's revenues are down 70%, while traffic is up 300% compared to this time last year. CTR is down by like 70% aswell.
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What is your neopets site? My 9 y/o dd loves neopets! 
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10-24-2006, 12:05 PM
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I would suggest your broaden your horizons just trying to throw up a site and thrive off adsense. Adsense is not the most efficient way to make money online, and is a pretty passive and inefficient means of creating revenue online.
Regardless it is far from saturated and there is a lot of opportunity out there.
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10-24-2006, 03:15 PM
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Also it really depends how deep and wide you go..
I mean lets say the "Sport" nIche..
A main site relating to all sports.. lots of subniches inside that..
football
baseball
hockey
and so on and so on...
Going deep and wide with related sites, blogs, eec, etc, using all these resources with adsense, and FUNNELING the traffic to the main site also with adsense on it..
This has to generate something, as long as you plan it right with plenty of fresh content all round.. and GET the traffic.. you should ONLY see adsense as an extra bonus tho.. really you need more eggs in the basket.
Even if each sub site earned only 10 bucks a day..and you have 50 of them.. you know.. mounts up..
Rob
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11-02-2006, 10:38 AM
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If you can put togther a good unique site then no... otherwise it probably is.
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11-23-2006, 01:30 AM
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- Web surfers are more savvy about AdSense
I think pretty much everyone knows what adsense is but I still click ads if they sound interesting to me. Its just a matter of hitting the right person at the right time.
I do agree theres much better ways to make money online. I have just started using affiliates, Ill let you guys know how it turns out.
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11-24-2006, 11:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ninjashoes
- Web surfers are more savvy about AdSense
I think pretty much everyone knows what adsense is but I still click ads if they sound interesting to me. Its just a matter of hitting the right person at the right time.
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I disagree. I believe the average web surfer has no idea what adsense is. If you stopped 10 people in the street, I bet only 2 of them would know what it is. I think because as webmasters we know, we just assume everyone knows. I have been on the Internet pretty much since it began, but it wasn't until I developed a website myself a few years ago that I discovered adsense. Until then, I had never heard of it.
I think there is still money to be made with adsense and with websites in general. Just my 
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12-03-2006, 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Janet
I disagree. I believe the average web surfer has no idea what adsense is. If you stopped 10 people in the street, I bet only 2 of them would know what it is. I think because as webmasters we know, we just assume everyone knows. I have been on the Internet pretty much since it began, but it wasn't until I developed a website myself a few years ago that I discovered adsense. Until then, I had never heard of it.
I think there is still money to be made with adsense and with websites in general. Just my 
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Yeah your right, I think most people realize they are ads now where as before if you saw something like adsense you might think its a link.
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12-03-2006, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Janet
I disagree. I believe the average web surfer has no idea what adsense is. If you stopped 10 people in the street, I bet only 2 of them would know what it is. I think because as webmasters we know, we just assume everyone knows. I have been on the Internet pretty much since it began, but it wasn't until I developed a website myself a few years ago that I discovered adsense. Until then, I had never heard of it.
I think there is still money to be made with adsense and with websites in general. Just my 
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I totally agree with that, i started making websites back in the 90's and not alot of people knew about advertising revenue or adsense then, even though it existed (not as google though) it existed through mostly rotations of banners sometimes earning £3 per click! Although the average user then would not know that if they clicked the ad the webmaster would recieve money for it. I'm pretty sure that is the case for a pretty large percentage of users these days too, although most users assume the webmaster will recieve some sort of revenue from advertising I don't think they suspect it as sole incomes for websites.
I generally believe that you can still make money out of Adsense if you plan it right, but do not make it your sole income and don't just have a website purely for adsense, because that just sucks.
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11-23-2006, 09:14 PM
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