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Old 10-08-2008, 04:02 AM
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Dueling Puppets - Explain this???

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/439.html

HOW!?? Can this be explained?
 
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Old 10-08-2008, 07:32 AM
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I'm not understanding your real question
 
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Old 10-08-2008, 08:10 AM
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I'm not understanding your real question
Then you obviously can not answer it either.

I have a question for you, did you click the link and watched the video? If so, do you understand what was going on there?
 
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Old 10-08-2008, 08:26 AM
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I watched the video. You are referring to the fact that both government officials are making identical statements I suppose? What is it you are attempting to imply is my question. It is no state secret that The U.S. and the British governments worked very closely together to make the case, as it is no secret that the intel being acted upon was from several different governments and sources. So again I don't understand your question.
 
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Old 10-08-2008, 08:34 AM
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Old 10-08-2008, 08:37 AM
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I watched the video. You are referring to the fact that both government officials are making identical statements I suppose? What is it you are attempting to imply is my question. It is no state secret that The U.S. and the British governments worked very closely together to make the case, as it is no secret that the intel being acted upon was from several different governments and sources. So again I don't understand your question.
Both the Australian and Canadian politicians were giving the same speech, word-for-word, to rally support for the Iraq invasion.

Even when they both had the same "intelligence" (which, btw, has been proven to be highly questionable by now) isn't it odd that they both were reading exactly the same speech to rally supprt for that war, and don't you wonder who wrote that speech?

I do wonder about that. I don't think it's normal for two different politicians at two different continents to be giving the same speech to rally support for a highly questionable war.

What is your take on this, how do you explain this?
 
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Old 10-08-2008, 08:50 AM
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You know my position from previous posts. Regardless the validity of the intelligence, the Iraqi regime was still in continuous and multiple violations of previous U.N. resolutions, including those from the very beginning, they also were in violation of the peace treaty the brought an end to Desert Storm. Those offenses alone were all the grounds needed for the U.S. and her allies to return to the theater. The giving of the same speech by separate government officials to me simply means to me that officials from multiple governments were working closely together and had reached an identical agreement. So much so that there was no change deemed necessary to convey the message to their governments and using the same speech just lowered the risk for message deterioration.
 
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Old 10-08-2008, 09:22 AM
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Fine, but please realize that in my part of the woods this reeks like war-propaganda designed by one single source.
 
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Propaganda is something one side uses to deflate the morale of the opposition and rally those on the same side, it is also statements of untruth. Although it can be argued that there were no huge stock piles of wmd's found. The facts that the U.N. resolutions were violated repeatedly, the peace treaty was violated repeatedly, and that the programs that had ceased, such as the nuclear program, though perhaps not fully implemented and active at this time, was in place to be quickly activated as soon as U.N. restrictions were lifted, which were scheduled to be within a relatively short time. The nuclear material did exist, the biologicals did exist. Much of what some refer to as propaganda was in fact true, thus not propaganda.

You are talking politics, you are also talking about attempting to capture opinion, so the facts are spin will likely be put to the argument. Statements will be made prejudice to the side you are on. Just as the views in your neck of the woods seem to have a prejudice on the war mongering accusation side of the story.
 
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Old 10-08-2008, 10:36 AM
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Sure, you are entitled to that opinion, this still leaves the question of WHO wrote that speech.
 
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hmm, tricky yes i can see why you asked that
 
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Old 10-12-2008, 12:29 AM
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Sure, you are entitled to that opinion, this still leaves the question of WHO wrote that speech.
That was me. I wrote that speech.
 
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Old 10-12-2008, 01:20 AM
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That was me. I wrote that speech.
No, I am Spartacus.
 
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Old 10-12-2008, 07:25 PM
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Or they stole it from The West Wing... *coughZedSeseljacough*
 
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Old 10-13-2008, 02:50 PM
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http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/439.html

HOW!?? Can this be explained?
How is that any different than the hypocrite duplicating the content of the site that originally posted this?

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/439.html
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http://wearechangeseattle.org/2008/1...eling-puppets/
 
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Old 10-13-2008, 03:30 PM
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How is that any different than the hypocrite duplicating the content of the site that originally posted this?

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/439.html
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http://wearechangeseattle.org/2008/1...eling-puppets/
Who posted it initially and who copied it?

On the wearechangeseattle page, there's a link to the brasschecktv page. It looks like wearechangeseattle got it from brasschecktv.
 
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Old 10-13-2008, 04:18 PM
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Who posted it initially and who copied it?

On the wearechangeseattle page, there's a link to the brasschecktv page. It looks like wearechangeseattle got it from brasschecktv.
How do we know the CIA did not give it to both sites webmasters at the same time?
 
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