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10-30-2008, 08:48 PM
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v7n Mentor
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Is this article on Obama Legit ??
I found this while looking at polling results, and was wondering if anyone here has read his book, seeing how his relatives that are supposed to be in the book are mentioned in this article.
And the relatives of his don't seem to be doing so well.
Link to the article on Obama spreading his own wealth
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10-30-2008, 09:15 PM
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v7n Mentor
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Originally Posted by Linda in NY
I found this while looking at polling results, and was wondering if anyone here has read his book, seeing how his relatives that are supposed to be in the book are mentioned in this article.
And the relatives of his don't seem to be doing so well.
Link to the article on Obama spreading his own wealth
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IBD is a credible source.
I've seen similar figures on Obama's charitable giving reported from several other sources.
The story of his half-brother in Kenya has been out there for quite some time, at least on the internet.
The discovery that his aunt is living in a Boston slum just broke this week in the British press. (I believe it was reported in the London Times, although I'm not 100% certain on that.)
Last edited by Bob Barr; 10-30-2008 at 09:16 PM..
Reason: fixed typo
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10-30-2008, 09:22 PM
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I can be true. IBD is a good source. I do know that there was an article based on obama and how he treated his family memebers poorly. There was a video posted on youtube on how he lied about his uncle or grandfather, but not 100% sure. I think that obama lies about 30% of the time.
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10-30-2008, 10:09 PM
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v7n Mentor
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I haven't read the book, but yes you're looking at a pretty reliable source. And it has been picked up by all the news agencies that will actually print and talk about news now a days.
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10-30-2008, 10:20 PM
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Anything posted this week against Obama is not legit....it's silly season, remember?
Yes, Investor's Business Daily is legit ,but we're talking here about an editorial which is someone's opinion.
It's also only 5 days till the election..... last ditch effort to derail Obama....
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10-30-2008, 10:37 PM
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v7n Mentor
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Originally Posted by FocalPoint
Anything posted this week against Obama is not legit....it's silly season, remember?
Yes, Investor's Business Daily is legit ,but we're talking here about an editorial which is someone's opinion.
It's also only 5 days till the election..... last ditch effort to derail Obama....
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That's just stupid, nothing now can be said about anyone because it's to close to the election. Don't be ridiculous, everything is valid to be presented and reviewed, and yes those stories have been there for a while about the stinginess, they tell everyone else not to make a lot of money, to give what they have to others and not be to successful but don't practice what they preach, that has been said and proven since summer. The aunt is just another piece to an already existing puzzle.
People like you are people that will allow a socialist liar be elected into the office of President. Let all information be presented and reviewed without hinder. The Obama campaign has been the most closed and stealthy campaign of any I remember. And whenever questions or statements of fact are made that are in a negative view get presented they are treated just as you are suggesting, just mind blowing. Mark my words, when this man gets elected if he does, 80% of the people in the country will be regretting it by the end of the 2nd year if not sooner. In so many ways, economically, domestically, and National Security, they will all be destroyed.
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10-31-2008, 06:34 AM
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v7n Mentor
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This is a classic example for a communist who wants to spread YOUR wealth while hording, growing and protecting his own.
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10-31-2008, 01:13 PM
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That's just stupid, nothing now can be said about anyone because it's to close to the election. Don't be ridiculous,
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Sorry, that's not what I said...anyone can and will say what they want close to the election....I am merely saying be alert to the motivation for doing so....
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10-31-2008, 01:41 PM
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v7n Mentor
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Originally Posted by FocalPoint
Sorry, that's not what I said...anyone can and will say what they want close to the election....I am merely saying be alert to the motivation for doing so....
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That is exactly what you said, you are taking me out of context to fit what you are wanting, you're quote
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Originally Posted by FocalPoint View Post
[b]Anything posted this week against Obama is not legit[b]....it's silly season, remember?
Yes, Investor's Business Daily is legit ,but we're talking here about an editorial which is someone's opinion.
It's also only 5 days till the election..... last ditch effort to derail Obama....
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So you didn't say you have to be weary, you said it's not legit, a fairly large difference in definition of meaning. Perhaps you should speak and think more wisely?
Whether something is said at the beginning of the election process or on the day of the election, if there is proof to back up the claim then it is a viable subject and should be weighed accordingly don't you think?
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10-31-2008, 01:15 PM
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The Obama campaign has been the most closed and stealthy campaign of any I remember.
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You've forgotten Bush already?...why he hasn't left office yet....
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10-31-2008, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by FocalPoint
You've forgotten Bush already?...why he hasn't left office yet....
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You need to clarify that statement
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10-31-2008, 04:21 PM
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Hey. Just because I have some money doesn't mean all of my relatives will be getting a paycheck in the mail. Hell I don't even like some of them, and only hear from many them every other holiday, why would I support the whole family ?
Family is no different from friends. You always seem to have more than you thought you did when things start to go well for you, but when the chips are down, who can you really depend on ?
You never know the whole story of why things are the way they are.
Would you expect an athlete to support a father that was a bastard ? All of a sudden a few contracts come in and everyone wants to take credit ?
Sorry. everyone has reasons for doing what they do, and I am sure a few of you have some family members that you would not be "sharing the wealth" with if you hit it big.
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10-31-2008, 04:59 PM
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So you didn't say you have to be weary, you said it's not legit, a fairly large difference in definition of meaning. Perhaps you should speak and think more wisely?
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I gave IBD more credit than it deserves...I must be more careful in the future. Apparently, though a valuable publication for the investor, and though it gives ample space for articles on the right and on the left, its editorials are decidedly anti Democratic and anti Obama.
The editorial in question is of that kind.
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11-03-2008, 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by FocalPoint
I gave IBD more credit than it deserves...I must be more careful in the future. Apparently, though a valuable publication for the investor, and though it gives ample space for articles on the right and on the left, its editorials are decidedly anti Democratic and anti Obama.
The editorial in question is of that kind.
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Why is it so difficult to accept that just because a story is not in the positive for Obama that it may still be a legitimate story or source? This is a serious question, it has been this way for the entire election. If a story is positive for Obama it is legitimate, if it questions or is negative of McCain and Palin it has credence and should be reviewed and listened to. If it is negative on Obama it is trash,rubbish, and has no credence. That just baffles my mind, according to everyone that supports Obama there is absolutely nothing questionable about him, nothing in the negative about him and he is completely beyond reproach.
How did that come to fruition??
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11-03-2008, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by FocalPoint
I gave IBD more credit than it deserves...I must be more careful in the future. Apparently, though a valuable publication for the investor, and though it gives ample space for articles on the right and on the left, its editorials are decidedly anti Democratic and anti Obama.
The editorial in question is of that kind.
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I thought everyone knew that IBD was totally right wing biased?
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11-04-2008, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Julie
I thought everyone knew that IBD was totally right wing biased?
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Not me...but I do now. I thought it was all about business news but I never checked it out.
It's a real slop-pot.... 
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06-12-2009, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Julie
I thought everyone knew that IBD was totally right wing biased?
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They have editorials from both sides, including many by flaming liberal E. J. Dionne and Ruth Marcus.
Practically a den of rightwing fanatics there, yup. 
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11-03-2008, 01:18 AM
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v7n Mentor
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And I'm going to make another statement here that is going to cause a ruckus. I have more experience and am more qualified to be President of the United States than Obama is. So is everyone else here that has successfully ran a business and spent an extended part of their career as a salesman and manager.
Being a business owner you have executive, decision making experience that effects yourself and those working for you, as well as your customers. Depending on the size of your business this is easily a great deal of people. Obama has no experience running a business. If you have experience as a manager you have knowledge how to communicate with people that both agree with you and that disagree with you. You also know how to deal with people that fail to follow policy or rules, not to mention actually contributing to the creation of policy. As a salesman you have experience dealing with people in the atmosphere of negotiating to get them to do things you want, whether they initially agree or not. I am not aware of Obama having any of this experience. His lack of actual votes during his short career of Senator only highlights the fact that he hasn't spent much time communicating with opposing people to get a common goal accomplished. So I think I, and several other V7N members are much more qualified to become President of the United States than Obama is.
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11-03-2008, 09:22 PM
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Why is it so difficult to accept that just because a story is not in the positive for Obama that it may still be a legitimate story or source?
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Probably for the same reason you don't see that this article was written with the intent to disparage Obama...it's a smear. If it were 'legit' it wouldn't need to be written in such a sleazy way....
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11-04-2008, 06:28 AM
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v7n Mentor
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Obama himself has acknowledged his Aunt, he also acknowledged her in his book. He denies knowing her immigration status and says if she is here illegally will have to go. She donated $260 to his campaign, which was returned to her of course. And Obama doesn't know where she is at the moment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txu5VQKxXRg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTpmgcCBxXA
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