kill michael moore

[littleFella]

I saw the movie but I didn't learn a lot of new stuff. I admit I was watching it with a bias against curerent administration.

As for the alleged lies, I don't think there are any in the movie. After all litigation is one of the major industries in the US these days, so I'm sure the White House would have taken care of the movie and Moore long before the movie even had a chance to be seen by the public.

A little note: the fact that Moore is fat or ugly (beauty is in the eye of the beholder) is totally irrelevant. Any mention of the fact seems to indicate that ad hominem attacks are the best Moore's opponents can do, which gives Moore even more amunition for his salvos. Ad hominem attacks are a sure sign of the attacker's weakness and lack of real and constructive arguments. We all know he is fat, but I haven't read one single post here proving, or even attempting to prove he is wrong or that the movie is full of lies.

[ferret77]

For all the retards who are saying the movie is full of lies without seeing it

I will clue you in on some of lies

for one their isn't even really a mention of saddam himself too much in the movie so I don't know where Michael moore said he was a great guy

one thing moore did do that was sort of sleazy was the way he inferred that the person blacked out of bushes medical record was blacked out to hide who he was

moore tried to make it sound like the guy was blacked out because he was a rep of the bin ladin family, which he was

he was blacked out because you cannot release someone medical record without their permission bush released his ,the other guy didn't so he had to get blacked out, not some conspiracy

The part about the Saudi and bin ladin families being allowed to leave after 911 on private jets without questioning is all true

it is even documented in the 911 commission reports

the part about saudis having like a trillion dollars in our banks is true

the part about Halliburton making millions of the Iraq war and the reconstruction is all true

the part about the deal unical made with the Taliban to create an oil line across Afghanistan are all true

The Saudi families bailing bush out of his failed oil dealings

his friendship with ken lay

convicted felons of Enron helping to make out countries energy policy that's all true

the facts don't need Michael moore

his slants and inferences give fuel for his critics

if he just reported the facts he would make a stronger argument

Just curious for all people who say the movie is full of lies

can please list some so I can see if you any clue what you are talking about

I personally like the part where he sat for 7 minutes like a deer in headlights after the first plane hit the tower

he was sitting in a preschool rading to some kids

let me see if I can shed some light on the falsehoods

the part where president bush says

"lets get tough on terrrorism , now watch this drive"

on the golf course he is talking about palistinan terrrorits moore editied that seem like he was talking about 911

[imaginemn]

Originally Posted by ferret

can please list some so I can see if you any clue what you are talking about

http://slate.msn.com/id/2102723

imaginemn

[ferret77]

Dude i read that article if you really read it says little to nothing about the facts in the movie

hes says that what moores suggests are conflicting and it attacks him personally but it does not say an specfic part of the movie is a lie

please post the actually lie

[sem4u]

Well I saw the movie last night. The cinema was sold out and people clapped at the end. I thought it was excellent. I was going to do a summary but ferret has beaten me to it

[DmgInc]

Rivux: You said IMR is drawing in the reject croud, or existing members were making new accounts to express their opinions, you were implying that all those who had joined just to discuss this topic were rejects, which is an accusation...

[ferret77]

yup he called you reject

are you going to take that from him

[DmgInc]

no

[Atom]

What is "white mush" .. and what is "gatt"?

Just curious.

[thing2b]

I think michael moore is great.

I can not say if the facts are true or not, but it does do one thing.
His movies get people questioning and even if the facts were not all true, the underlining message is put into the public arena for discussion.

[Smokin]

I think demi moore is better

[Spiral]

I like how Michael Moore criticizes the Bush administration for using lies and deception to further their case, and then does the exact same thing in his movies.

He's fighting on the right side, but doing it in a horrible way. I'm rather left wing and even I don't like the guy.

[bytech]

"Our country is in a war against an enemy who would destroy our way of life, our culture and kill our people," Fridley wrote. "These barbarians have shown through (the attacks on Sept. 11, 2001) and the recent beheadings that they will stop at nothing. I believe this film emboldens them and divides our country even more."

Hahaha... what an idiot. Just where is there a connection between 911 and Iraq? Saudies where the ones behind this, everyone knows that. Of course onf of the many deceptions of Bush is fabricating a link between Iraq and 911 as that was pretty much the only way to get the war started... a war Bush wanted to started before 911.

[Atom]

Who's Fridley?

[bytech]

Originally Posted by imaginemn

http://slate.msn.com/id/2102723

imaginemn

Guess you didn't read the comments the article received? Two thumbs down by a land slide on account of obnoxious language and twisted mentality. Who writes like this these days? Does Chris (the author) really think he is impressing us with his ability to use a thesaurus?

[John Scott]

Originally Posted by bytech

Guess you didn't read the comments the article received? Two thumbs down by a land slide on account of obnoxious language and twisted mentality. Who writes like this these days?

You do. I think two posts ago you just said "Haha! What an idiot!", which is by no means the epitome of skillful debate.

[John Scott]

Originally Posted by bytech

"Our country is in a war against an enemy who would destroy our way of life, our culture and kill our people," Fridley wrote. "These barbarians have shown through (the attacks on Sept. 11, 2001) and the recent beheadings that they will stop at nothing. I believe this film emboldens them and divides our country even more."

Hahaha... what an idiot. Just where is there a connection between 911 and Iraq? Saudies where the ones behind this, everyone knows that. Of course onf of the many deceptions of Bush is fabricating a link between Iraq and 911 as that was pretty much the only way to get the war started... a war Bush wanted to started before 911.

Recent beheadings were done by the same people who killed thousands of innocent civilians on Sept 11th - Muslim Fundamentalists. It's not a national thing. No Gov't were involved in the September 11 attacks. Not Iraq. Not Saudi Arabia. It was done by Muslim Fundamentalists regardless of nationality.

The war in Iraq is not a war on the Iraqi people. It is, and always has been, a war to liberate Iraq from the enemy.

The unspoken truth is that these people are barbarians with no respect for human life. They are the enemy of every civilized person who respects life and liberty and all those principles we hold dear.

When Iraqi children die in this war, civilized mankind mourns. We sincerely mourn the loss of life. But when American children died in the Sept 11 attacks, Muslim Fundamentalists danced and rejoiced in the streets.

When we disagree with what others do, we do not take journalists captive and saw their heads off. But that's what these Muslim Fundamentalists do, and are praised by their peers for doing.

You know, bytech, I'm don't like Bush that much either, but I'm not going to oppose democracy and lend support to a murdering tyrant just to spite Bush. Somewhat counterproductive, don't you think? You make it appear as if Bush is the supporter of human life and the Left believe in letting murderers continue about murdering.

[Atom]

I haven't seen Moore's movies, but from everything I've read about Michael Moore and his movies, I can honestly say that I am left with an impression that he is a rather slimey sort of character. I am not saying that he is a slimey character, I am saying that this is the general impression I get, having read several articles and comments about him and his movies. This, in and of itself, is not a "good thing", to me.

[Buskerdoo]

You go John.

[ferret77]

Most of those people who are cutting of heads arn't even form Iraqi

they have shipped in by Iran and syria , or have migrated from wherever they where for a chance to fight us

if we were not in iraqi right now they would be there either

saddam , used to execute fundementalists becasue they threatened his power