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Old 02-13-2009, 01:20 PM
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USA - Third World Country.....

Hi, many have said that within five years the good ole US of a will turn into a third world country. What do think of these predictions?


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Please provide proof of said claims.
 
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Old 02-13-2009, 02:07 PM
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How about infant mortality worse than 28 other countries - now

how about life expectacy we tie - Cuba, Chile, Costa Rica, Kuwait, Qatar and Slovenia

How about the death penalty


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It is very hard to predict things right now. Not long ago a barrel of oil was $147, and now it is $33. When it was at $147 Gordon Brown and Nicolas Sarkozy were saying they wanted a new Bretton Woods system, with China taking over the role of the USA and Muslim banks taking over the IMF. The world was waiting breathlessly for the USA to finally fail, and for China to take over economically. In truth, if America was to fail, China wasn't strong enough to take its palce -- no nation was. It was fantasy. And with the world recession, America is still looking like the best bet -- for now. The dollar is recovering and China even said the other day, although they expect the dollar to weaken under Obama, our treasury bills are still the best investment in the world.

If the USA takes a nose dive, then what is left to fill the vacuum? Seemingly nothing. No other country or system is that strong. That means something very new and inventive will have to happen. Something no one was expecting.

And the whole world system could get very weird soon. Russian is very near a huge collapse. And what will a cornered bear do? China's growth is in trouble, but the population has been groomed to have high expectations. The banking system in the UK is in big time trouble, as the London Telegraph reported about a week ago, that the government is on the verge of bankruptcy.

Rather than speculate on whether the USA will be a third world country, I'd prefer to ponder what kind of new economic world order is coming. Whatever it is, it will look good at first... so did fascism under Hitler... so did Communism for awhile... but after some time... well, it's more than financial problems... it's counting the bodies.

Obama might look good at first. Throwing money around has certain appearances. But overall, the leadership in the country is extremely lacking for now... with Obama, the Congress, the business world. Obama's initial stimulus will not last... will only lead to trouble. The question is -- how bad will it get in the long run? Maybe, very bad. We have no leadership... only delusions.
 
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Please provide proof of said claims.
Bahaha, no proof here bud. Just going by different news articles and radio talk shows have discussed. Some say that the economy will get so bad that we will start getting leftist groups that the law can't handle. Ouch!


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I want to see proof of this future prediction! LOL

But seriously - as far as the OP goes. The US being the first nation to devolve into a third world country, it's a foregone conclusion IMO.The stock market is worth half of what it was 6 months ago (so far), but then so is the stock market in most developed countries. It won't be just the US, the entire world is suffering from mass insanity, and complete detachment from reality. When the world roots for evil, and hates good, lives in a fantasy because a hoax tells them that they can control the weather through taxes and burning food, thinks that socialism will save us all instead of kill us all, and elects a marxist Kenyan to make it all happen etc.. ad nauseum it's just a matter of time. I give it a year or two.

Gerald Celente of Trends Research Inc predicts the same thing -

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I don't know what the literal definition of a third world country is, but I believe America will eventually fall under its own weight, regroup, and reemerge as something different no longer sharing a common government. That's been coming for a long time and I actually support that to a large degree.

After we get through the first two years of the Obama catastrophe it'll be a little more clear just how soon that will happen. The amount of damage he's done in just this short time makes me think it'll be sooner than anyone expected. Even some of his biggest supporters are finally beginning to admit that he was a terrible mistake, but we're two years from being able to make him impotent. At the rate he's destroying America there's no way to tell what condition we'll be in by then.

Whatever the case, we found a jungle when we got here just a shade over 200 years ago. Whatever the new formation is it'll be strong and world leading.
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Hi South I would like to know more about what Obama has done as far a mistakes are concerned, if you could point me to some of this information I would be interested. I also sadly think that ww III is quite possible before 5 years has come and gone .

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I've been posting on what Obama has been doing in the threads, Should Obama Apologize, Dumbest President, and Suggestions to Fix the Economy.
 
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How The US Became A Third-World Country

It's not every day that a superpower makes a bid to transform itself into a Third World nation, and we here at the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund want to be among the first to welcome you to the community of states in desperate need of international economic assistance. As you spiral into a catastrophic financial meltdown, we are delighted to respond to your Treasury Department's request that we undertake a joint stability assessment of your financial sector. In these turbulent times, we can provide services ranging from subsidized loans to expert advisors willing to perform an emergency overhaul of your entire government.

As you know, some outside intervention in your economy is overdue. Last week -- even before Wall Street's latest collapse -- 13 former finance ministers convened at the University of Virginia and agreed that you must fix your "broken financial system." Australia's Peter Costello noted that lately you've been "exporting instability" in world markets, and Yashwant Sinha, former finance minister of India, concluded, "The time has come. The U.S. should accept some monitoring by the IMF."

We hope you won't feel embarrassed as we assess the stability of your economy and suggest needed changes. Remember, many other countries have been in your shoes. We've bailed out the economies of Argentina, Brazil, Indonesia and South Korea. But whether our work is in Sudan, Bangladesh or now the United States, our experts are committed to intervening in national economies with care and sensitivity.

We thus want to acknowledge the progress you have made in your evolution from economic superpower to economic basket case. Normally, such a process might take 100 years or more. With your oscillation between free-market extremism and nationalization of private companies, however, you have successfully achieved, in a few short years, many of the key hallmarks of Third World economies.

Your policies of irresponsible government deregulation in critical sectors allowed you to rapidly develop an energy crisis, a housing crisis, a credit crisis and a financial market crisis, all at once, and accompanied (and partly caused) by impressive levels of corruption and speculation. Meanwhile, those of your political leaders charged with oversight were either napping or in bed with corporate lobbyists.

Take John McCain, your Republican presidential nominee, whose senior staff includes half a dozen prominent former lobbyists. As he recently put it, "I was chairman of the [Senate] Commerce Committee that oversights every part of the economy." No question about it: Your leaders' failure to notice the damage done by irresponsible deregulation was indeed an oversight of epic proportions.

Now you are facing the consequences. Income inequality has increased, as the rich have gotten windfalls while the middle class has seen incomes stagnate. Fewer and fewer of your citizens have access to affordable housing, healthcare or security in retirement. Even life expectancy has dropped. And when your economic woes went from chronic to acute, you responded -- like so many Third World states have -- with an extensive program of nationalizing private companies and assets. Your mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are now state owned and controlled, and this week your reinsurance giant AIG was effectively nationalized, with the Federal Reserve Board seizing an 80% equity stake in the flailing company.

Some might deride this as socialism. But desperate times call for desperate measures.

Admittedly, your transition to Third World status is far from over, and it won't be painless. At first, for instance, you may find it hard to get used to the shantytowns that will replace the exurban sprawl of McMansions that helped fuel the real estate speculation bubble. But in time, such shantytowns will simply become part of the landscape. Similarly, as unemployment rates continue to rise, you will initially struggle to find a use for the expanding pool of angry, jobless young men. But you will gradually realize that you can recruit them to fight in a ceaseless round of armed conflicts, a solution that has been utilized by many other Third World states before you. Indeed, with your wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, you are off to an excellent start.

Perhaps this letter comes as a surprise to you, and you feel you're not fully ready to join the Third World. Don't let this feeling concern you. Though you may never have realized it, you've been preparing for this moment for years.
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I think that since the definition of third world = undeveloped the only the US would become 3rd world would be natural disaster or nuclear war.
 
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The USA is driving itself INTO a third world country. It may have been once developed but is since destroying itself from within.

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Since 1913, the year the 16th amendment to the US Constitution was ratified by the states, there have been the doomsday say'ers out there who claim the United States will fall.

It hasn't happened yet.
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It hasn't fallen and probably won't. But I can tell you the crime rate has gone up twofold with this economy slump. Suckola!

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Since 1913, the year the 16th amendment to the US Constitution was ratified by the states, there have been the doomsday say'ers out there who claim the United States will fall.

It hasn't happened yet.
Before 1969, humans hadn't gone to the moon yet.
 
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Hi, many have said that within five years the good ole US of a will turn into a third world country. What do think of these predictions?


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In some parts of the USA, conditions are like a third world nation.

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2008/oc...mort-o18.shtml

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Several countries in Scandinavia (Sweden, Norway, Finland) and East Asia (Japan, Hong Kong, Singapore) have an infant mortality rate below 3.5, almost half the US rate. The CDC's 2004 rankings placed the US in a tie with Poland and Slovakia, and only marginally ahead of Puerto Rico and Chile. The US was behind every developed country in North America, Western Europe, and Australasia, as well as Cuba, Hungary, Israel, and the Czech Republic.
I have heard that babies born in some parts of Africa have a better chance of survival then those born in the USA.
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It will take a lot longer than 5 years and a lot screw-ups for the US economy to tumble. The US economy is very resilient. This recession is not going to last too long.
 
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