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Old 03-17-2009, 10:04 AM
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overwhelming support for the fairtax

I was surprised to see that the FairTax is already gaining massive support amongst those polled.

I read Neal Boortz's book The FairTax Book and while it was rather simplistic in literary content, the historical aspect was worth its weight in gold.

here's a poll I was looking at:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/3...887/941/708943

What's interesting is right off the bat I read plenty of anti-Bush jargon, and yet the overwhelming majority are in favor of a consumption tax.


Could this be the beginning of a tax revolution? I'm excited by the possibilities.
 
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Old 03-17-2009, 01:47 PM
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I've been supporting the Fair Tax for a long time, but have been less active since the last election. I know it has absolutely zero chance of being considered while Obama is in office.

There are quite a few conservative politicians who would support this. I'm really hoping that the next four years with Obama will put the country into such liberal overload that we can get a true conservative in. Carter did it for Reagan and Carter wasn't half the loose cannon liberal Obama is.

The Fair Tax could solve so many problems. The tax burden would be naturally fair. Rich buy more expensive things and pay more, poor buy less expensive things and pay less. People could adjust their own tax burden by altering spending habits. People wouldn't have to sell the property their ancestors worked and sweated for just to pay the death tax on it. People would be inspired to create and invest more.

It'll be hard to get done regardless. Most politicians hate the idea because it's a very transparent tax, very hard to manipulate pork and favor-buying money out of. They use scare talk to try and get people off of the idea, but fortunately fewer people are buying it.

I hope it's true. I hope we get a grass roots tax revolution going. That along with a conservative president and at least semi conservative legislature would get it done. It's the one issue that backs me off of Mitt Romney. He doesn't support it, but public outcry would get him on board I think.
 
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Old 03-17-2009, 01:55 PM
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we didn't have an income tax until the early 1900s, and we didn't have withholdings until 60years ago. If the general population can realize that these taxes aren't as old as dirt, and were only started decades ago, they may realize that the country can survive without them.

44 cosponsors in congress I believe was the latest count.

Huckabee was the man.


I agree with everything you said except the idea that it can't be passed with Obama in the whitehouse. If the poor realize that this fair tax helps them, he is supposed to be man 'of the people'...

If the American people stand up and control the government they own rather than allowing it to control them, we can have a tax revolution again.
 
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Old 03-17-2009, 03:07 PM
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check out what else happened today:

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The Special Order of Congress today, organized by Rep King, went very well! The speakers in order of their appearance were:
Cliff Stearns FL-06 202-225-5744 (before the main FairTax session)
Steve King IA-05 202-225-4426 (multiple times)
Nathan Deal GA-09 202-225-5211
Jeff Miller FL-01 202-225-4136
John Mica FL-07 202-225-4035
John Linder GA-07 202-225-4272
John Duncan TN-02 202-225-5435
Phil Gingrey GA-11 202-225-2931
Henry Brown SC-01 202-225-3176
Paul Broun GA-10 202-225-4101
Be sure to thank these Congressmen for speaking out and make it clear to other co-sponsors you want them do the same. We hope to see many more of these with Democrats joining in as well.
Thanks for pushing to make this day possible!
 
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I agree with everything you said except the idea that it can't be passed with Obama in the whitehouse. If the poor realize that this fair tax helps them, he is supposed to be man 'of the people'...
I'd love to believe that's true and I hope you're right. Problem is, most of what Obama promotes is bad for the poor, but he's consistently able to make them think he's "their guy". He has a silver tongue that makes a lot of people think whatever he tells them to think.
 
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The income tax is really a tax on the poor. The USA needs needs some kind of flat tax or sales tax.
 
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tonight my group meets for the first time. It'll be the first FairTax meeting in Western Washington... wish us luck. I don't expect a huge turnout, but could be 10-20+ people. Have to start somewhere.

Have you guys seen all the Tea Parties breaking out across the US? I think we are in a great time for tax reform!
 
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If we don't get spending under control, it's not going to matter whether we have tax reform or not. This nation is headed for insolvency and a crushing currency devaluation.
 
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If we don't get spending under control, it's not going to matter whether we have tax reform or not. This nation is headed for insolvency and a crushing currency devaluation.

disapproval of the budget is not a good excuse for allowing a bad tax system to go untended too. Too many American's hear "tax reform" and then automatically start thinking about Social Security, Medicare, Department of Transportation, Budget Issues, Democrats, Republicans, Socialism, Conservatives vs Liberals, Abortion, etc.

those things are unrelated. The task at hand is taxes. We have a tax issue. Our income tax alone has had 10,000 amendments since 1986. Our AMT has to be addressed every year so that it doesn't kill the middle class.

The issue at hand is taxes. We must solve our tax issue.

Do not allow yourself to become overwhelmed by the burden of topic "B" to point of uselessness on topic "A". Fight the good fight.


first taxes...

then budgets...


power is addictive. when the American people take back their power, they will hold their government accountable and spending will correct itself (some).
 
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You get the government to repeal the 16th amendment and kill the income tax and I'll be willing to consider the merits of creating a new tax. Until then, you are likely just helping to create a complimentary revenue stream for the government.
 
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You get the government to repeal the 16th amendment and kill the income tax and I'll be willing to consider the merits of creating a new tax. Until then, you are likely just helping to create a complimentary revenue stream for the government.
You're singing sweet music to my ears my friend! The FairTax does require the repeal of the 16th to work, check it out!
 
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