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Old 06-19-2009, 06:18 PM
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objectives of law

1. to secure order in the society

2.to establish balance between conflicting interests in the society

3.to maintian stability in the society
 
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Old 06-20-2009, 01:31 PM
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1. to secure order in the society

2.to establish balance between conflicting interests in the society

3.to maintian stability in the society
None of above

Law is providing Guidelines used by Law Enforcement institutions to:
1. secure order in the society
2. establish balance between conflicting interests in the society
3. maintain stability in the society etc.

 
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Old 06-20-2009, 03:52 PM
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Ranter why are you picking on a new member?

I must confess that I am not sure the purpose of the post but you are hair-splitting here.
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Ranter why are you picking on a new member?
What are you talking about?
How is my explanation in any apparent way is "picking"?

 
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Old 06-21-2009, 03:53 PM
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objectives of law
To me, the only objective of Law is to unavoidably reap what one sows.
A continuous cycle of action and reaction, with no escape.

The inexorable law of karma says that if you do something bad to someone, they must one day have vengeance to settle the debt. And likewise, if you do something good for someone, one day you must be rewarded materially. Creating binds. Iron chains for bad actions, and golden chains for good ones.

The wise men of old say that we must eventually learn to be/live above both good and bad karmic action. Thus freeing us from their binds, but this is no easy task.
 
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Old 06-21-2009, 04:07 PM
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1. to secure order in the society

2.to establish balance between conflicting interests in the society

3.to maintian stability in the society
Ok.

Are you studying law or something?
 
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Old 06-21-2009, 04:29 PM
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To me, the only objective of Law is to unavoidably reap what one sows.
A continuous cycle of action and reaction, with no escape.

The inexorable law of karma says that if you do something bad to someone, they must one day have vengeance to settle the debt. And likewise, if you do something good for someone, one day you must be rewarded materially. Creating binds. Iron chains for bad actions, and golden chains for good ones.

The wise men of old say that we must eventually learn to be/live above both good and bad karmic action. Thus freeing us from their binds, but this is no easy task.
Hi krahmaan,
You are right on the definition of law, but he's talking about man-made laws, those that rule the society. Other laws (natural, religious, mathematical, biological, astronomical, etc) are not meant to be covered by the definition that he gave.

I don't see the purpose of this thread anyway. Is the OP asking something? stating something for debate? boosting post count? got drunk and made that up before going to bed?
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Old 06-21-2009, 05:39 PM
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that's the third "definition" thread he starts.

Iamjohns, May I ask what is the purpose of quoting definitions?
Are you asking for opinions or are you just making a statement?
 
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Old 06-22-2009, 09:02 AM
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BS! It's all about control, nothing more.

Let's say I have a large piece of land that I basically took from someone. Oh, they objected but I had my buddies kick their asses and they know better than to come back.

So now someone else comes along and wants to live on some of my land. Well, okay, but according to my rules. If not, see ya!

But now that I made some rules I have to have a way to enforce them, so I'll create a group of thugs, give them intimidating uniforms and give them the authority to act in my name. Now I can make sure everyone follows my rules.

But someone doesn't! Well, okay, I'm going to punish him for not following my rules. I'll take his money. Maybe I'll lock him up somewhere. I'll make an example of him for everyone else...

Hmm, I need a jail. I'm too busy to play judge, so I'll choose someone to be judge, too.

This is what we have in the U.S. We brought it with us from another country when that King decided that the new land was his land and his subjects should obey his rules.

See how stupid it all really is?

It's all about control.
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Old 06-22-2009, 09:14 AM
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(...)See how stupid it all really is?

It's all about control.
Yes. However, I think that the introduction of nuclear weapons has thrown a wrench into the works in that control seems to become a necessary evil. What do you think of this view?
 
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The advent of nukes will solve nothing. Someone will hit the button and someone else will hit them in retaliation.

Screw it. Launch the missiles and let God sort it out.
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Old 06-22-2009, 09:28 AM
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The advent of nukes will solve nothing.
Yes well my point is that their advent actually created a new problem that rather neutralizes your point made about human desire for control. Circumstances seem to dictate that it is now human *need* for control to insure survival of all species.
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Someone will hit the button and someone else will hit them in retaliation.

Screw it. Launch the missiles and let God sort it out.
My sympathies exactly, sometimes. It largely depends on mood I think.
 
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It's all about control.
Ah, but control by the Rules never the less

 
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To define what is socially acceptable at that time.

To ensure that certain economic statuses stay in place.
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Atom, desire or need, it matters not. Only species that will be alive and walking this rock will be that dieing a slow death from radiation poisoning. Just a matter of time before it occurs. Better keep the pills handy.
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I think we're stuck. Science got us into this and is likely our only hope out. I still have faith in science.
 
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Only species that will be alive and walking this rock will be that dieing a slow death from radiation poisoning.
Roaches are not affected by radiation. Next time you see one in your house, put it in the microwave and see what happens.

So when the human race is long gone, roaches will be the masters of the universe.
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Next time you see one in your house.
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put it in the microwave and see what happens.
no thanks - putting animal in a microwave is not my favorite hobby

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So when the human race is long gone, roaches will be the masters of the universe.
They have the same IQ as some of the masters we've seen so far.
 
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