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Old 07-23-2009, 12:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I think that it will be legalized within my lifetime...
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Making marijuana illegal is like saying God made a mistake...

State lawmakers will soon need to weigh risk versus reward. They have a funding source right in front of them yet don't touch it because of false beliefs and irrational federal law.

Unless they enact measures to control further immigration or reduce the size of government, two things I don't foresee happening any time soon, they will have no other choice.

In this case, the risk is very slight compared to the amount of reward in return.

I would like to see Obama create The Council for Sanity in Government Regulations. Any member of that group would have their work cut out for them.
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I believe that is so crazy. I think you need a prescription.
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Yeah, a prescription for love! Hope the pharmacist that fills it is a really hot blonde chick and not some old guy!
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Hey now! And what is wrong with brunettes?
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C'mon, Cricket, brunettes are way too smart for me! I prefer women who can stare at a cereal box for hours and not be bored.

Two blondes walking down the street, one finds a mirror on the sidewalk and picks it up.

"Ooo, what is it?" says one.

"It's a picture of me!" says the one, looking into the mirror.

"Lemme see that!" says the other blonde. "No it's not! It's a picture of me!"

(Sigh...)
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And he digs the hole just a little bit deeper . . .


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Okay, equal time...

A gorgeous brunette died and found herself standing before St. Peter at the Pearly Gates.

St. Peter says to her, "Before you get to come into Heaven, you have to
pass a test."

"Oh, No!" she said, but St. Peter said not to worry he'd make it easy.

"Who was God's son?" said St. Peter.

The brunette thought for a few minutes and said "Andy!"

"That's interesting... What made you say that?" asked St. Peter.

Then she started to sing "Andy walks with me! Andy talks with me! Andy tells me..."


Let me know when it's deep enough, my shovel has a really long handle...
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It would reduce crime IMO and provide a good tax revenue.... besides it not like pot smokers will ever quite just because it is illegal so society might as well benefit from the use of it via taxation on the product and related goods.
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Ok, let me ask a question, I mean I am not going to make a substantive decision on the subject until I have a comfortable understanding.

When was Marijuana first made illegal, and under what circumstances(causality)?

What contributing factors over the course of its current legal status have made it remain as it is?

What factors make it a worthy issue of law to make legal? Who should have the right to decide the legality of Marijuana, state or Federal?

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It would reduce crime IMO and provide a good tax revenue.... besides it not like pot smokers will ever quite just because it is illegal so society might as well benefit from the use of it via taxation on the product and related goods.
I have to admit statements such as this cause me to have to fight against my stubborn streak, a disagreement with the law, in other words a large number of people refusing to follow it, and it a difficult task to enforce is not a just cause to legalize something, and a statement that suggests such chaos is one that causes me to have to fight back the, "Fine, you want to be stupid about it then we'll just leave it the way it is" attitude.
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The Marijuana Tax Act of 1937 made possession or transfer of cannabis illegal throughout the United States under federal law.

This might help answer your other questions, gamer. Click here.

The unwinnable 'war on drugs' is a contributing factor in keeping it illegal. More than one million people in the U.S. make their living from being a part of the 'war on drugs'.

Who should have the right to decide legality of cannabis? How about The People?

The government wants us to think that 'daddy knows best' but it's a hoax. The people deserve a vote on it, but the government won't allow it because they know we would favor legalizing cannabis and they would have to admit they were wrong.

The People in many states have already been able to vote yea or nay for medical use, and they have overwhelmingly voted yes. That should mean something. Yet the feds arrogantly continue to ignore the will of the people in those states.

Today's CNN webpage has an unscientific poll:

Quick Vote
Should marijuana be decriminalized?
Yes
No
Only for medical use

Results at 6:30 EST :

Yes: 67%
No: 18%
Only for medical use: 15%

True, just because a lot of people use it in violation of federal law is not a reason to change the laws, just as amnesty for illegal immigrants is not something that should be offered simply because there are so many of them living in the U.S.

But at the very least, the laws should be changed so people suffering from debilitating pain can gain at least some form of a better standard of living during their remaining days by using marijuana for pain relief without being forced to live in fear of being arrested and thrown in prison for doing what they feel is best for themselves.

I was forced to watch my own mother slowly die of cancer over 6 years. As her disease progressed, she was given one 'legal' pain medication after another by the doctors until the side effects of the pain medications themselves were almost worse than the pain they were designed to mitigate. She literally gagged at the thought of having to swallow more pills, which were prescribed to be taken three times a day. Problem was, it was thirty pills at a time!

If marijuana has any side effects, they would be an increase in appetite, which my mother could have used, inducing restfulness, which my mother could have used, and giving her a reason to laugh in the midst of a cruel disease that was everything but funny.

Unfortunately, my mother refused to use marijuana (even though she had smoked cigarettes until quitting in the early 60's) because she was worried about being arrested.

She suffered needlessly simply because of an antiquated law and the threat of punishment.

And she is by far not the only person to have suffered like that. Hundreds of thousands suffer the excruciating pains of disease every single day (if not millions) while a pain remedy provided us by God goes unused.

When the government begins to pass laws that make sense, then I will obey them, but until they do I am doing what I feel is best for myself. The laws be damned.
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Edit to the last sentence of my post above: I want to clarify that statement.

"I will do what I feel is best for myself, as long as it doesn't harm or bother anyone else."

Florida should follow California's lead and seriously consider legalizing and taxing marijuana:

Florida's Hydroponic Pot: House-Grown and Super-Potent

By Carmen Gentile / Miami Thursday, Jul. 30, 2009

California may be the center of the marijuana trade and the controversies over its legalization. But Florida has surpassed it in one important category: the Sunshine State is now the country's leader in indoor marijuana cultivation. It is a potent distinction because most of the marijuana grown this way is cultured hydroponically — that is, mostly without soil and with a carefully calibrated cocktail of chemicals and lighting — to create some of the highest level of highs on the market.

In 2006, Florida law enforcement here discovered 480 homes growing marijuana indoors. Last year, 1,022 grow houses were busted. "This isn't your grandma's marijuana," quipped a Miami-Dade narcotics officer at one bust as he tossed garbage bags stuffed with confiscated marijuana into an unmarked police truck. Levels of THC — the agent in marijuana that produces feelings of euphoria, and in some users mild hallucinations and paranoia — have risen dramatically because of indoor techniques. Thirty years ago, most marijuana contained about 7% THC. Today, indoor growers boast THC levels of 25% or higher thanks to the additional care that indoor plants receive.

Read full article here.

The article mentions that the mortgage crisis and homes going into foreclosure is one factor that helps this along. Growers buy cheap houses and there are a lot of cheap houses in the Miami-Dade area. In that manner the failing economy is actually a boon to (currently) criminal enterprise.

I find it curious and interesting that the author includes in this sentence the bolded words "Levels of THC — the agent in marijuana that produces feelings of euphoria, and in some users mild hallucinations and paranoia — have risen dramatically because of indoor techniques.

Guess she or her editors didn't want the article to be too pro-marijuana.

There's also an inflammatory wording later within the article where the author mentions "An irrigation system supplies water and chemical fertilizers to the plants via a hose that runs into the adjacent bathroom, where the toxic brew used to accelerate plants' growth is dumped down a drain."

Note particularly the word 'toxic'. Really? Toxic in what way? How toxic? What chemicals are in that "toxic brew"? How is that any different from the 'toxic brew' of fertilizers and human waste sprayed upon farm fields that seeps into rivers and streams every year?

Looks to me like another example of media attempting to sway the general public opinion one way or the other.
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