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Old 08-07-2009, 07:17 PM
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Ron Paul: Government Is A Failure

Ahhhhhhhhh politics...

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Old 08-07-2009, 09:02 PM
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*Moved to Politics Subforum*

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Old 08-08-2009, 04:20 AM
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Ron Paul - the man that brings me face to face with my own homosexuality.
 
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Old 08-08-2009, 08:44 AM
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Ron Paul - the man that brings me face to face with my own homosexuality.
It's too bad he doesn't have more support or the US might actually begin down a different path.
 
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Old 08-08-2009, 11:17 AM
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It's too bad he doesn't have more support or the US might actually begin down a different path.
Zap, I know some Republicans and Democrats ready to vote for him. They just don't believe that he will represente enough votes to influence the two other big political parties.

What these people don't understand is sometimes it not about winning but to propose another alternative politicies that can influence some decisions.
 
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Old 08-08-2009, 08:11 PM
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Celente further explained that, “Phantom dollars, printed out of thin air, backed by nothing ... and producing next to nothing ... defines the ‘Bailout Bubble.’ Just as with the other bubbles, so too will this one burst. But unlike Dot-com and Real Estate, when the "Bailout Bubble" pops, neither the President nor the Federal Reserve will have the fiscal fixes or monetary policies available to inflate another.” Celente elaborated, “Given the pattern of governments to parlay egregious failures into mega-failures, the classic trend they follow, when all else fails, is to take their nation to war,” and that, “While we cannot pinpoint precisely when the 'Bailout Bubble' will burst, we are certain it will. When it does, it should be understood that a major war could follow.”[

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Old 08-09-2009, 02:57 PM
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Ron Paul would take us down a different path, yes, one that would be good for the people of this country.

Hope? Forget hope! That's always about tomorrow. What about today?

Change? How about change for the better? That would be a start!
 
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Old 08-09-2009, 03:25 PM
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It's too bad he doesn't have more support or the US might actually begin down a different path.
I suspect that if Ron Paul was for real and he indeed did get elected, he'd simply be assassinated in due time.

I can't quite tell if he's for real or not. That's a tough one.
 
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Old 08-09-2009, 03:29 PM
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Ron Paul - the man that brings me face to face with my own homosexuality.
How so?
 
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Old 08-09-2009, 03:34 PM
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I think Ron is for real, it's Congress that I'm not sure about. Until we have a complete House (and Senate) cleaning, and get rid of that old Pelosi fool, it will continue to be the same sh**, different day.

Finally the people are beginning to awaken and speak up (particularly about health care reform), and it's about time.

Only through the people can actual change for the good come about. We certainly cannot rely upon Washington, D.C. to do what's best for the people. We've tried that and it did not work.

We need to take this country back before it is too late.
 
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Old 08-09-2009, 03:37 PM
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(...)We need to take this country back before it is too late.
How, Allen?
 
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Old 08-09-2009, 04:03 PM
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I'm not exactly sure how, Atom, but I do know we can't continue down the same road. It leads to a cliff.

Reducing the size of government instead of increasing taxation and spending might be a good start. Also get rid of ALL of the lobbyists. Special interests are not special, just cumbersome and taxing, taking much needed funding from everywhere else.

How much sense does it make to spend 15 million dollars to build an airport in an Alaskan community of 150 people? That's where part of the money from a stimulus package is going. Nothing but special interests and lobbyists. And the locals are complaining that they are not getting the jobs, the jobs are being done by 'outsiders'.

We've got far too many Senators concerned more about saving their jobs than saving the country! That must change.

How much sense does it make to continue Bush policies? How much sense does it make to continue funding this war? It is a war we will never win. There will be no winners this time, only a lot of sorrow.

There is a great distrust spreading amongst Americans about their government and that needs to change. But how can it change when the people continually get screwed over? I'm old enough to remember a time when we felt we could trust our leaders to do the right thing but those feelings are quickly disappearing and I really feel sorry for our young people today. My time is soon to come to an end, but the young must put up with it for many more years to come. What kind of a world, what kind of a government will they have to deal with?

Government running auto industries? Banking industries? Health care industries? Where will it end? As it is our young people will pay ever more taxes because of these stimulus bills. That was a foolish move to pass those bills. We will struggle to pay the interest and will not be able to pay anything on the principle, leaving us forever in debt to others.

I believe that when enough Americans finally take to the streets in mass protest against this takeover of America by Obama, Congress and whoever else is involved (Rockefellers? Rothschilds?) only then will we gain their attention. History has shown that our government only listens to the people when we are willing to get angry enough to wage violence to enact change.

But that attention will be a misuse of force, by our local and state police forces, National Guard and yes, even our own military, the forces that we pay to keep through our taxation. It will turned on us, it will be bloody, and people will die.

But how else can the people enact change for the better in today's political climate of lie, cheat and steal? Through the current corrupt political process?

Trying to enact change through the political process is no better than doing exactly what they want you to do.

Patriots were called Patriots for a reason. They were not afraid to shed the blood of our oppressors.
 
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Old 08-09-2009, 04:07 PM
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How, Allen?
Well during the campaign of President Obama, he said that if he was taking the wrong path, he is counting on us to tell him so.

I hope he can respect his word...
 
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Old 08-09-2009, 04:15 PM
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(...)Trying to enact change through the political process is no better than doing exactly what they want you to do.(...)
Beauty, dude.


But I'm thinking that there must be some kind of power structure. What do you suggest?
 
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Old 08-09-2009, 04:17 PM
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Well during the campaign of President Obama, he said that if he was taking the wrong path, he is counting on us to tell him so.

I hope he can respect his word...
He's full of sh!t, I'm afraid.
 
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Old 08-09-2009, 04:20 PM
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I'm thinking a panel of 100 for the power structure.

Think that's enough?

Or.. maybe too many?


Nah.. 100 sounds reasonable to me. They'll need to be from every country I think.
 
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Old 08-09-2009, 04:24 PM
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I guess the facts speak for themself.
 
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Old 08-09-2009, 04:29 PM
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I guess the facts speak for themself.
Obama is a "yes man" that is expert in not seeming so, IMO.
 
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Old 08-09-2009, 04:35 PM
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I think that it is the complicated matters that don't really matter.


I was watching a cooking show and surmised that bit of unrelated wisdom, BTW.


LOL


off topic or what lol.

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Old 08-09-2009, 04:37 PM
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I'd like to make a what I like to think of as important statement at this time. I am the walrus.



Thank you.
 
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