Gun confiscation

[Allen Farlow]

Originally Posted by anonymously

If it is true that no one can rid the states of guns, then it never will know what it is like not live in fear

I'm a gun owner who carries a firearm on his person all the time.

Believe me, anonymously, I don't fear anything.

[Zap]

Originally Posted by Allen Farlow

I'm a gun owner who carries a firearm on his person all the time.

Believe me, anonymously, I don't fear anything.

If you truly had no fear, you wouldn't need to carry the gun.

[John Scott]

Originally Posted by Zap

If you truly had no fear, you wouldn't need to carry the gun.

Being obtuse? The gun removes the fear. It is the great equalizer. Doesn't matter how big a guy is, a 80 pound female can defend herself against him with a mere piece of metal.

[Zap]

Originally Posted by John Scott

Being obtuse? The gun removes the fear. It is the great equalizer. Doesn't matter how big a guy is, a 80 pound female can defend herself against him with a mere piece of metal.

No. The need for the gun is evidence of the fear.
Courage and fear are not mutually exclusive.

[South]

Originally Posted by Zap

No. The need for the gun is evidence of the fear.

So an 80 lb lady has cause for fear in certain environments and the gun alleviates it. What's wrong with that?

[Allen Farlow]

Originally Posted by Zap

No. The need for the gun is evidence of the fear.
Courage and fear are not mutually exclusive.

I'm six feet tall and weigh 225 pounds. I've had hand to hand combat training and can hold my own in a street fight, but why bother getting my hands dirty and risk getting the snot knocked out of me when I can simply hold my handgun at my side where my enemy can see it and give them pause?

It's not like I run around being a pain, trying to get into fights. I'd much rather avoid the conflict and being fully armed allows me to do so. It's really not a matter of courage or fear, but I fear no man, no matter how much bigger and stronger than I he may be because I know if he really wants to press the issue I can drop him, if it really must come to that.

There's a lot I can do to keep it from coming to that, but I'd rather have a handgun and not need it than to need it and not have it.

[Natural Elements]

Originally Posted by Zap

No. The need for the gun is evidence of the fear.
Courage and fear are not mutually exclusive.

Gun is an equalizer, most home invasions are not committed by only one person, but many, perhaps armed.

Do you ask criminels "hey do you have a piece, wait I will get mine", you never know what they intentions are, robbing, killing, raping or else.

I read from stupid people that you should give up any valuables or cash to them. DING DONG do they need to take my gun and ammo too to hurt other people or police officers?

[John Scott]

Originally Posted by Zap

No. The need for the gun is evidence of the fear.
Courage and fear are not mutually exclusive.

I would have thought that his statement made it clear that he did not fear because he had a gun to defend himself, the converse logically implication being that without a gun, fear is natural.

You seem to want to think that a man shouldn't need a gun to be free from fear. Tell that to the police, and see how far it gets you.

[Natural Elements]

England Gun Ban Update
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGVAQOUi6ec

CNN- Obama To BAN Guns
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vKfL2ETnF8

Just a question, why most of anti guns or pro guns control politicians or people having either armed body guards or security house gate armed guards are for firearms ban? Are they feeling unsecured? I don't see them hating guns when they can afford armed guards.

What's ironic, isn't it?

[Allen Farlow]

Studies, which I can't present to support this, have shown that people who obey criminals are injured or killed as often as those who fight back.

[cobaltinee]

Hello. What is your problem from gun condiscating? Are you shock with Sonia Sotomayor as Judge? Thank you.

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[Allen Farlow]

Sonia Sotomayor is only one Supreme Court vote on gun issues and she will most likely vote in favor of rescinding or restricting our gun rights. She can still be counteracted by the other justices.

My concern is that other justices may step down during Obama's term, allowing him to load the Supreme Court with more justices who think the same as Sotomayor.

It was reported the other day that one Supreme Court justice (was it Stevens?) had hired only one assistant for this term, indicating he may be preparing to step down.

Regardless, the justices can do what they want to restrict our gun ownership rights, that doesn't mean I will pay any attention to it.

[Natural Elements]

Sotomayor on Question of Gun Control
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3ChO-RSrw8

What amazing me is that 222 years from the creation of the US constitution they are still questioning themself about the interpretation of the 2nd Amendment.

C'mon that is just hypocritical.

[Allen Farlow]

Gun control? Gun control is holding it with both hands.

What they think is gun control is little more than an attempt to control a sizeable part of the population.

Gun control is not about controlling guns, it's about controlling people.

[Natural Elements]

Controlling people? Perhaps more.

In France City Cops (Police Municipale) cannot carry an handgun, and they recently revoked the right to use the tazer. I am wondering how they can enforce the laws and protect themself.

Each time a police officer is taking the heat in France, the politicians will not support them, and quite honestly they are pretty courageous to work in these conditions.

This is what's happen when you leave the politicians destroying your rights, once they get you as civilian, they will get the police. Then they will not be able to protect people and properties.

The French gouvernment can just tell you that you should be well insured and hope criminals will not hurt you.

Well, I prefer much more the American concept and will always fight and support the 2nd Amendment.

[Hades]

Originally Posted by Natural Elements

In France City Cops (Police Municipale) cannot carry an handgun, and they recently revoked the right to use the tazer. I am wondering how they can enforce the laws and protect themself.

Keep in mind that not everywhere in the world the crime levels are the same as in the US.

When I came to Cracow I asked around how was the crime level here and people told me that once a guy killed his girlfriend, he threw her to a lake and she couldn't swim. And that was all they knew about crime in Cracow. They would be horrified to read a newspaper from the US or South America.

By not allowing policemen to carry guns, french politicians aim to prevent crime rather than stopping it, they probably have other policies in that regard, and I fully support that initiative.

Perhaps if the US did more to reduce the crime levels in their cities, citizens wouldn't feel the need to carry a gun.

[Natural Elements]

Originally Posted by Hades

Keep in mind that not everywhere in the world the crime levels are the same as in the US.

When I came to Cracow I asked around how was the crime level here and people told me that once a guy killed his girlfriend, he threw her to a lake and she couldn't swim. And that was all they knew about crime in Cracow. They would be horrified to read a newspaper from the US or South America.

By not allowing policemen to carry guns, french politicians aim to prevent crime rather than stopping it, they probably have other policies in that regard, and I fully support that initiative.

Perhaps if the US did more to reduce the crime levels in their cities, citizens wouldn't feel the need to carry a gun.

I kind of understand what you said, but criminals in France have full illegal access of light and heavy military hardwares. So once again disarming the police is just one way to encourage these criminals to continue without any risks or unable to stop them.

I wish you could be able to read French because I can prove that many French criminals kill armored vehicles drivers or conveyors.

We have an expression in French "Pour defendre la Paix, il faut preparer la guerre", unfortunately you can be the strongest peaceful person you will always have some bad guys trying to steal, murder, rape, etc

[Allen Farlow]

South, it sure would be easier to fill your freezer if you could use a full-auto assault rifle, eh?

But some idiots decide to go shoot up a school or a business and the government freaks out and bans them.

Sometimes life sucks.

[Natural Elements]

Here are some facts, perhaps they are old but it gives an idea how the anti-guns propaganda is biased:

Do you know that 18,000 people died in 2002 by no having health insurance, 45,380 people died in car accidents, 838 children drowned, 474 children died in house fires, and 130 children died in bicycle accidents when 9659 died by firearms in 2003?

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/...nce-deaths.htm
http://johnrlott.tripod.com/op-eds/N...ers102005.html
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2007/offe...rtable_07.html

[Natural Elements]

In most cases when the police arrived people are dead my friend, so when criminals threat your life and you do not have anything to defend yourself, you just need to pray.

If they don't use guns or knifes, they can use poison like some criminels did in the japonese metro. I recently read that in France some gangs use hammer to fight. Like I always said when people are violent they will use anything that can be used as weapons. oh yes you can ban hammer, machetta, etc... where does it end? Do you know that I can use a magazine or a book as weapon? Should we ban magazines and books took?

Ask ladies who carry conceal weapons if they want a ban on weapons. There is a rape every 6 minutes in US, ask them if they want to give up their weapons to please some anti guns people. Ask low people income to disarm when they cannot afford to live somewhere else where there is a lot of crimes, druggies, etc

It does depend on the public decisions like you said, but most people like you who are for gun ban use biaised propaganda and brainwash people brains.

In facts owning guns in America reduce crimes, where massacre happen, they are in gun free zones.

I don't see how the right to bear arms in US can make a problem internationally, that a false information. Yes UN wants to establish a small arms ban, but there is a difference between small full automatic weapons sold to Africa in 14 years old baby boys compared to semi-automatic weapons registred in US.

Tell me why all the governments produce and use dealers to sale small arms to rebellions or other countries when they try to ban their own people to own firearms?

Tell me why UK sold many small arms in Iraq when we all know that more than 20% iraqi soldiers defect the army with their weapons?

"A 2004 survey found that 94 percent of 22,600 chiefs and sheriffs questioned thought that law-abiding citizens should be able to buy guns for self-defense"

Even the police support law-abiding citizens and I appreciate very much the privilege to own a firearm.