CDC Considering Mandatory Circumcision

**Cricket** · 08-31-2009, 09:44 AM

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The Centers for Disease Control are currently considering making routine circumcision mandatory for baby boys born in the United States. Circumcision is considered a method of reducing the spread of the HIV virus. http://lansing.injuryboard.com/misce...oogleid=269958

Excuse me? How is it possible for the CDC to even think they have the RIGHT to make this decision for parents? It truly scares me that it would be possible for any branch of our government to begin to have this much control. We currently require proof of immunizations when a child starts school. Will they add proof of circumcision to that?

Allen Farlow · 08-31-2009, 10:09 AM

OH, THAT JUST CUTS IT!

and isn't that discrimination by sex?

warnesey333 · 08-31-2009, 10:19 AM

That's a bit on the extreme side...surely this cannot pass...

dWhite · 08-31-2009, 10:25 AM

How does circumcising reduce the spread of HIV? All it is is removal of the foreskin, how does that prevent STDs like HIV when they are contained within bodily fluids?

warnesey333 · 08-31-2009, 10:28 AM

Maybe it's something to do with people not washing properly? Bacteria may get caught up and live there and then spread?

Who knows - all I know is that it's ridiculous...

**Cricket** · 08-31-2009, 10:33 AM

Further research indicates that the CDC is denying this all together. Sometimes it is difficult to know which reports are true anymore. Sometimes I think when there is so much smoke, there just might be a hidden fire somewhere though, ya know?

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Some recent reports have speculated about the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s (CDC’s) upcoming public health recommendations on male circumcision for HIV prevention in the United States.

It is important to note that the recommendations are still in development and CDC has made no determination at this time about the final content. CDC is employing a deliberative, evidence-based process for developing the circumcision recommendations, which allows for both external and internal CDC experts to provide input. CDC will also publish draft recommendations for public comment before the content will be finalized.

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/resear...rcumcision.htm

**Zap** · 08-31-2009, 08:37 PM

CDC: Everyone else is grabbing power like mad. Let's get some for ourselves.
(Public Outcry)
CDC: Nothing's final yet. We're just spitballing here. Throwing out ideas to see which ones stick.

**South** · 09-01-2009, 12:56 AM

All they can do is spitball til they get government healthcare passed later this year. Once that's done they can mandate pretty much whatever they want.

They can just buy a study to show that circumcised people cost less in lifetime healthcare...it's then a mandate. If the government owns it they get to regulate it. We gave them our healthcare system so there's no need to whine when they regulate your lifestyle.

**Zap** · 09-01-2009, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by South

All they can do is spitball til they get government healthcare passed later this year. Once that's done they can mandate pretty much whatever they want.

They can just buy a study to show that circumcised people cost less in lifetime healthcare...it's then a mandate. If the government owns it they get to regulate it. We gave them our healthcare system so there's no need to whine when they regulate your lifestyle.

I don't know where you're getting your propaganda from, South, but there's a huge difference between regulating health care and regulating the human body. Many of the posts I see in here, regarding the new health care changes, are proof positive of nothing more than your (not you, specifically, South) inexperience with the issue.

If you think that government run health care means that the CDC can mandate circumcisions, then your freedom has already been lost and government run health care is really not your biggest problem right now.

**South** · 09-01-2009, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Zap

I don't know where you're getting your propaganda from, South, but there's a huge difference between regulating health care and regulating the human body. Many of the posts I see in here, regarding the new health care changes, are proof positive of nothing more than your (not you, specifically, South) inexperience with the issue.

If you think that government run health care means that the CDC can mandate circumcisions, then your freedom has already been lost and government run health care is really not your biggest problem right now.

I'm the least paranoid person you'll ever meet. I'm basing my view on statements made by Obama himself on similar issues. Whether or not he has the actual power for it will be decided by what happens between now and November 2010.

**Zap** · 09-01-2009, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by South

I'm the least paranoid person you'll ever meet. I'm basing my view on statements made by Obama himself on similar issues. Whether or not he has the actual power for it will be decided by what happens between now and November 2010.

Obama said that the CDC could mandate things like circumcision? Really?

Natural Elements · 09-02-2009, 08:51 AM

Global Authoritarianism is on the way.

Natural Elements · 09-02-2009, 10:22 AM

Thimerosal and Neurotoxicity
Vaccines and Mercury Neurotoxicity in Children
At high exposure levels, mercury causes neurotoxicity in humans, especially in fetuses and small infants whose brains are still developing.

The major toxicity of mercury is manifested in the central nervous system. Forty years ago, when women at Minamata Bay, Japan, ate fish contaminated with methylmercury from pollutants, their children were exposed to high levels in utero and were born with developmental and neurologic disorders.

http://www.healing-arts.org/children...es-mercury.htm

**Cricket** · 09-02-2009, 10:55 AM

Let's not turn this into a debate concerning whether or not a child should or should not be circumcised or vaccinated (those are other debates all together) but rather about how much control the CDC should or should not have.

Natural Elements · 09-02-2009, 11:10 AM

Well I don't think it is the business of any governement or medical institution to force parents to circumcise their young boy(s). It is not the right method to prevent the spread of HIV.

I remember that the pediatrician asked if we wanted to do that for our son as a prevention, I consider that as a mutilation if there is no necessary medical need to do this surgery.

Why pediatricians ask? To make more money?

**Zap** · 09-02-2009, 05:04 PM

Any doctor that says circumcision is necessary to prevent HIV needs to have their license revoked as they obviously have little understanding of the human body.

zero · 09-03-2009, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Cricket

Excuse me? How is it possible for the CDC to even think they have the RIGHT to make this decision for parents? It truly scares me that it would be possible for any branch of our government to begin to have this much control. We currently require proof of immunizations when a child starts school. Will they add proof of circumcision to that?

I don't believe the circumcision at the early age to prevent the spreading of HIV. Whether he is circumcised or not as long as he carried the HIV during sexual activities, it still spreading the deadly disease but unless he use a contraceptive protection like condom to prevent the spreading of deadly disease.

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Originally Posted by dWhite

How does circumcising reduce the spread of HIV? All it is is removal of the foreskin, how does that prevent STDs like HIV when they are contained within bodily fluids?

I agree with you, circumcising is not way to prevent the spreading of HIV. Only education and enough knowledge about this disease to prevent the spreading of HIV.

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Originally Posted by Natural Elements

Well I don't think it is the business of any governement or medical institution to force parents to circumcise their young boy(s). It is not the right method to prevent the spread of HIV.

I agree

My opinion about circumcision is to remove the foreskin and remove the "dirt", to avoid a transferring that "dirt" into female reproductive organ during sexual intercourse of a man and woman.

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Originally Posted by Zap

Any doctor that says circumcision is necessary to prevent HIV needs to have their license revoked as they obviously have little understanding of the human body.

I agree with you, the body of children are not strong as the body of adult.

faye valentine · 09-03-2009, 02:59 AM

@zero looks like you had a lots of answers!

hahaha.. And all of them.. i don't argue with that!

Allen Farlow · 09-03-2009, 11:19 AM

"We can do this the easy way or we can do this the hard way."

What the hell kind of thing is that for an official to say?!!!

Anyone who lays the ultimatum down to me like that will definitely get it the hard way.

I can understand the reason for immunizations, it helps prevent the spread of childhood diseases from one child to another in such a closed-in environment as schools. And I can understand the reasons we have public schools (it's not only for teaching skills children need to have as they grow into adults but also to boost the economies of those areas, that's why schools receive thousands of dollars every year per student enrolled, and that's why they want your kid to go to their school each day. Educating children requires a lot of different people, from janitors and bus drivers to teachers and superintendents, people earning paychecks.)

Truancy issues already carry the risk of fines and jail time for parents, but now they're going to FORCE our children to be immunized? Like I said in another thread, America is becoming a police state, where we will be forced to do what they want.

I see a lot of parents moving out of districts, moving to different states, and home schooling their children.

And possibly a few rounds being fired through doors when they come knocking to take children away to be immunized against a parents wishes.

Natural Elements · 09-03-2009, 11:46 AM

Right now there is not serious studies making the difference between the regular flu and the swine flu death. When they through at us numbers like 90,000 potential deaths it is a lie. Where come from these numbers? Do they add these numbers from regular flu to inflate them?

Tuberculosis itself kill 2 millions people each year in the world, do you hear any governments talking about that, do you see these numbers in any mass media?

What a great brainwashing...