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Old 11-01-2004, 01:39 PM
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He was making it sound like the US forced his country to go to Iraq which is blatantly untrue. Plenty of his neighbors aren't there.
 
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Old 11-01-2004, 01:39 PM
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From one idle speculation that bin laden may have (gasp) lied about something (very nonsensical), you attribute conspiracy theories and support for bin laden. Perhaps I should find a more constructive way to pass my time.

I never attributed that theory to you. I simply speculated on the logic behind it, based on previous posts in the thread.


If you do not have a strong argument to support your suggestion that Bin Ladin is innocent, why would you post such nonsense?
 
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Old 11-01-2004, 01:53 PM
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I never attributed that theory to you. I simply speculated on the logic behind it, based on previous posts in the thread.


If you do not have a strong argument to support your suggestion that Bin Ladin is innocent, why would you post such nonsense?
It's only speculation, why shouldnt I post it? Unless I'm trying to pass it off as fact, I don't feel the need to provide proof. Speculation is a tool for discussion.
 
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Old 11-01-2004, 02:00 PM
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I think the suggestion is less than meaningful when they is no supporting evidence, and I think the families of the victims would find it offensive. When thousands of innocent people are killed, we don't appreciate people trying to exonerate the guilty party without even a shred of evidence.
 
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Old 11-01-2004, 02:07 PM
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The big white part you see lying in the center of the whole is part of the body of that airplane John. It happened in my neighbourhood and I have been there ans seen it, I didn't take any pictures myself but I was there only a few minutes after it happened and the plane parts where lying everywhere, also big parts.

I was looking at that so called scientific computer simulation with the steel construction and still I'm not convinced, parts of the wings should have been on the pentagon's lawn.
When a plane normally crashes, the pilot is incontrol and is attempting to land as 'softly' (using that word lightly) as possible. They usually crash at around 120-150 MPH, in this case, the planes powered up as they crashed. This is what happens when a jet crashes into a reinforced concrete wall at 500 MPH, you'll notice that the jet is gone. With very little damange to the walls.

Its really simply physics, I don't get why people expect to see an entire plane sitting on the lawn of the pentagon.
 
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Old 11-01-2004, 02:11 PM
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whats the arguement again

 
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Old 11-01-2004, 02:15 PM
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Nice! /\
 
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Old 11-01-2004, 02:19 PM
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LOL!

Good one, Ferret.
 
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Old 11-01-2004, 02:25 PM
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Cut the crap!
 
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Old 11-01-2004, 02:28 PM
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I think the suggestion is less than meaningful when they is no supporting evidence, and I think the families of the victims would find it offensive. When thousands of innocent people are killed, we don't appreciate people trying to exonerate the guilty party without even a shred of evidence.
You are ridiculous, John Scott. You simply cant respond without making implications about peoples opinions and morality. And when called on it, you dodge the question (you werent calling me disgusting, just my opinion, I see). It's not really even a debate at all, more like a childish argument. And its over.
 
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Old 11-01-2004, 02:48 PM
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Dark Matter - if you are going to get emotional and take things personally, please refrain from debating.
 
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Old 11-01-2004, 02:50 PM
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Dark Matter - if you are going to get emotional and take things personally, please refrain from debating.
lets keep things friendly...

JS you suck...

go Kerry!!!
 
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Old 11-01-2004, 02:53 PM
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fox news says the polls are equal... that means kerry is ahead
 
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Old 11-01-2004, 02:58 PM
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Before making comments like that, give yourself some time to know the people around first.
You sound like a child here, Jim, and maybe you are, I don't know, but let me point something out to you..

This comment of yours assumes that you know this person enough to know that they are not familiar with other posters here. Either you know this person kkibak2, or you are guilty yourself of your very own accusation against them.

Which is it?
 
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Old 11-01-2004, 02:59 PM
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As much as I hate Kerry. It does look like he's a lock for the presidency.

Bush did a lousy job. Just about everyone can agree on that.
 
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Old 11-01-2004, 03:02 PM
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This is what happens when a jet crashes into a reinforced concrete wall at 500 MPH
Good explanation for not seeing any plane wreckage after the impact.
 
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Old 11-01-2004, 03:21 PM
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You sound like a child here, Jim, and maybe you are, I don't know, but let me point something out to you..
Yes Atom, comparing to you, I'm a child.
EDIT: After reading this statement again, I think that it might sound a bit offensive. Sorry, I've meant no offense here.
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This comment of yours assumes that you know this person enough to know that they are not familiar with other posters here.
Yes, I assumed that. I tried not to explain it this way but let it be:
As far as I know, Ferre is a good guy. He's not stupid, neither cocky nor selfish. If I were somebody, who never red any of Ferre's posts before and came accross to the post that is the object of this argument, that could be the only way to insult him like that. That's why I assumed that kkibak2 is not familiar with the people around.
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Either you know this person kkibak2, or you are guilty yourself of your very own accusation against them. Which is it?
I have no idea what's that supposed to mean.

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Old 11-01-2004, 03:23 PM
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Oops, I guess that plane crash film convinced me this can be possible, to find no airplane rubbish I mean.
 
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Old 11-01-2004, 03:32 PM
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I have no idea what's that supposed to mean.
That's ok, you've already answered it.

Nothing personal, Jim ... I just like to make what I consider to be significant points, occasionally.




I'm quite sure that there are many people that follow these posts quite regularly but post very little, and some not at all.

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Old 11-01-2004, 04:25 PM
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<edit> posted in wrong thread : /

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