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Old 11-17-2009, 03:04 PM
Franc Tireur Franc Tireur is offline
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Jobless, homeless, all this small band has is each other

With no work, no home and few prospects, all Roy Hawkins, Mark Corbett and Drew Everhart have is each other.

“We’re pretty much what you’d call a brotherhood,” said Corbett, 48, sitting in the makeshift camp he set up in the woods about an hour’s walk from the center of Charlotte in January 2008 and which has been his home ever since. “We look out for each other and we share what we have.”

Hawkins, 44, has been with him on and off since then, since he received his prosthetic leg three months ago. He lost the lower half of his leg in an accident in April.

“When you lose your leg, you lose your livelihood,” Hawkins, an electrician, said.

Everhart moved into the camp about three months ago. He ended up in Charlotte around a year ago after an accident on a construction job. Corbett is also a construction worker, with few possibilities for full-time work because the U.S. housing crisis and the recession it spawned have wiped out many construction jobs.

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Old 11-17-2009, 04:09 PM
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"When you lose your leg, you lose your livelihood."

People who think like that just aren't thinking straight. I wonder if he ever thought of getting training to do something else? Surely he received a settlement or at least was on workers comp.

I knew a Vietnam vet who lost a leg in the war and got around on crutches. Talk about a pathetic man. He would ask everyone and anyone to do things for him instead of getting up off his lazy behind and doing it himself. Sure, getting around on one leg isn't as easy as getting around on two, but it isn't the end of the world or the end of your life. He used his missing leg as a crutch, a reason to hate the world, to hate fate. Like I said, pathetic.

If a person really wanted to, really stopped and thought about it, if nobody is hiring, why not create their own work? Why not go into business for themselves? Start buying the newspapers from the plant at wholesale and sell them on the street at retail. This being fall, they could buy a lawn rake for less than $10 and start walking the streets, knocking on doors, asking homeowners if they'd like their leaves raked for a couple dollars. (Heck, I've done that!) Or buy a small extension ladder and start cleaning gutters. Homeowners always need someone to do that and they don't like to do it themselves. They could even buy a squeegie and a bucket and start cleaning car windows for tips.

If there's no jobs, make your own work and make your own money. 90% of the people in the U.S. are still employed, so things are not as bad as some would think.

As more and more people join the ranks of the homeless, the smart people will distinguish themselves from the clueless, but nobody will know it. That's because the smart people will create a place to live that is hidden from the mainstream and make it comfortable, as these guys did, and won't be such a burden on society. So it's in the woods, not much difference from being in a suburb.

But be warned that it will draw unwanted attention if too many people live like that too near each other. No local government likes squatters camps and the associated crime and trash, so they'd be wise to discourage others from staying too nearby.

Being that these guys worked construction, what we need right now is a big ol' hurricane to tear stuff down. Hurricane Katrina put a lot of people back to work in the construction trades. And seeing as they are homeless, they are free to travel to where the jobs are.
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Old 12-02-2009, 04:21 AM
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When you lose your leg, you lose your livelihood.
Like Allen Farlow says, this view in life is really pathetic. Its all in the mind. You want to blame the world or you want to make the best of the situation, the choice is yours. Its the coward's way out to blame the circumstances. Yes, circumstances can be difficult but they always are the end of your previous life and they can be a fresh new nice beginning if you so wish.

It may sound clichéd, but if you are going to complain because you lost one leg, think about the guy who has lost both legs.

What I mean to say is, yes it can be depressing and it becomes easy to complain and blame the world or fate, but if you continue this way, you are the loser. The choice is yours!
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Old 12-02-2009, 05:48 AM
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That day included following them to the library in Charlotte where Hawkins fills out job applications and checks whether his application for disability benefits has been approved.
I never met a guy who was waiting on disability who would accept a job, even if you offered to pay cash under the table.
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Old 12-02-2009, 09:57 AM
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Life is what you make of it, regardless of the circumstances.
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Old 12-05-2009, 01:54 AM
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all have different understanding nd different likes
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