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Old 12-01-2009, 08:37 AM
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The Nobel Peace Prize send 30,000 more troops to Afghanistan

President Obama is sending 30,000 additional troops to Afghanistan, White House officials tell CNN.

The president will travel to the U.S. Military Academy in West Point, New York, for a speech to the nation that is expected to announce his second escalation of U.S. forces in Afghanistan since he came to power in January.

In addition to the 30,000 troops, Obama is expected to announce he'll seek further troop commitments from NATO allies as part of a counterinsurgency strategy to wipe out al Qaeda elements and stabilize the country, while training Afghan forces.

The expected new troop deployment would increase the total U.S. commitment in Afghanistan to almost 100,000 troops, bolstered by about 45,000 NATO forces.

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Old 12-01-2009, 08:42 AM
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Afghanistan: Pay for it or charge it?

War is expensive, and it's about to get more so if the U.S. government escalates its military efforts in Afghanistan.

President Obama is set to announce his strategy in a speech Tuesday at the U.S. Military Academy in West Point, N.Y. And the question of cost hovers in the background of the difficult decision he faces.

Over the past eight years, the nearly $1 trillion cost of the military's efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan was essentially charged to the national credit card.

Will it be different this time?

There's some chance lawmakers may opt to pay the bill as it comes due, rather than letting the balance and interest accrue. It's not the first time the idea has come up, but it may be the first time the idea is given serious consideration.

A big part of the context for deciding whether and how to pay for a buildup are the growing deficits that have become a political and financial albatross. The country's accumulated debt is expected to rise from $12 trillion today to $21 trillion by the end of 2019.

Some lawmakers are pushing for a war tax. Peter Orszag, the White House budget director, took part in the latest war council meeting. And Obama is expected to raise the cost issue in his Tuesday evening address at West Point.

Since 2001, close to $1 trillion has been appropriated by Congress - and borrowed by Treasury - to pay for U.S. war efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan, according to a report from the Congressional Research Service published in September.

Total spending on the global war on terror, including missions in Iraq and Afghanistan, could approach $2 trillion by 2019 depending on the level of military involvement, the CRS reported.

White House spokesman Robert Gibbs on Wednesday told reporters that Obama's address would stress that further engagement in Afghanistan would not last another eight years. Gibbs also characterized the increase in troops as "very, very, very expensive" in terms of potential lives lost and dollars spent.

The White House estimates a troop increase will cost $1 billion a year for every 1,000 troops. So if Obama chooses to increase troops by as much as 40,000, that's $40 billion a year. That would be on top of the costs incurred for the troops and operations already on the ground, including the costs of any drawdown in Iraq.

"That's in addition to what we already spent in Afghanistan and Pakistan. That also does not include training and it doesn't include maintenance of a security force," Gibbs said.

Enter David Obey, D-Wis., chairman of the House Appropriations Committee, and other leading Democratic congressmen who have proposed a graduated war surtax beginning in 2011 to pay for U.S. military efforts going forward. The amount of tax collected would have to be sufficient to cover the full war costs of the previous year.

The surtax would start at 1% for anyone with taxable income and increase gradually up the income scale to as much as 5% for the highest-income households.

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Old 12-02-2009, 10:06 PM
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Some peace price winner lol. He should have won the award for the most efficient printing prize in history.
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Old 12-03-2009, 04:42 AM
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Of course it's not good. And i think that the society should give some reaction as new troops in Afghanistan will cause for problems and lots more innocent people will suffer.
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Old 12-03-2009, 04:55 AM
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Afghanistan is gulping the existing army men ... He's going to fill the gap that made before .....
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Old 12-04-2009, 02:06 PM
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Obama is just sending more Reinforcements so as to bring Peace in the area quickly by eliminating Al-Quaeda completely
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Old 12-04-2009, 04:09 PM
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This war cannot be won. Especially by USA. This will be the second Vietnam, but fortunately with less casualties. It'll be looooooooong and it has nothing in common with peace.

Will the americans go home ever? The answer is: NO.
Why? Because it's a strategic area. They will stay there forever.

My country spend $400.000.000 every year to support USA in this war. WHAT FOR???

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Old 12-05-2009, 01:50 AM
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just to waist there money no sense
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