Webmaster Forum



Go Back   Webmaster Forum > The Webmaster Forums > Forum Lobby > Controversial Social Issues

Controversial Social Issues Discussions concerning controversial social issues. Topics include politics, religion, culture, social and economic issues, etc. Respect required at all times.


View Poll Results: Should inmates have access to the Internet?
Absolutely Not! 24 45.28%
Yes, but with limitations 26 49.06%
Yes 3 5.66%
Voters: 53. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 02-11-2010, 07:24 PM
Cricket's Avatar
V7N Administrator
 
Join Date: 10-13-03
Location: Texas
Posts: 38,244
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Cricket is supreme webmaster materialCricket is supreme webmaster materialCricket is supreme webmaster materialCricket is supreme webmaster materialCricket is supreme webmaster materialCricket is supreme webmaster materialCricket is supreme webmaster materialCricket is supreme webmaster materialCricket is supreme webmaster materialCricket is supreme webmaster materialCricket is supreme webmaster material
Should Prisoners Have Internet Access

Quote:
Is having internet access a right or a privilege? Do you feel inmates should have limited, free, or no access to the internet at all? Should social networking websites do more to prevent inmates from posting information on their sites or should it be the prison system's responsibility to play big brother? http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...he.html?cat=17
Quote:
Computers and prisoners are risky to mix, but computers are hardwired into the infrastructure of correctional facilities and operations, and few prisons are computer-free zones. There are three reasons further computerization is inevitable: http://www.lib.jjay.cuny.edu/ctt/col1196.html
Quote:
The British government said Thursday that Facebook had removed the profiles of 30 U.K. inmates at its request after several incidents in which prisoners reportedly used the social networking site to organize crime or taunt others. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100211/...rs_on_facebook
Quote:
Trulincs is the anachronism for the prison email system. (Trust Fund Limited Inmate Computer System (TRULINCS)) The idea is if inmates have limited access to internet communications with family and friends they will assimilate more easily into society upon release. http://desmoines.injuryboard.com/mis...oogleid=261724
So what are your thoughts? Is use of the Internet a right or a privilege? Should inmates have Internet access? Why do you feel that way?
__________________
GNC Web Creations - Free Search Engine Optimization (SEO) Training Class
Website Development Training - Website Development Training Blog

Join V7N on Facebook today! facebook.com/V7Network
Share |
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 02-11-2010, 07:56 PM
boxfiddler's Avatar
Contributing Member
Latest Blog:
None

 
Join Date: 01-25-10
Posts: 545
iTrader: 0 / 0%
boxfiddler is a splendid one to beholdboxfiddler is a splendid one to beholdboxfiddler is a splendid one to beholdboxfiddler is a splendid one to beholdboxfiddler is a splendid one to beholdboxfiddler is a splendid one to beholdboxfiddler is a splendid one to beholdboxfiddler is a splendid one to beholdboxfiddler is a splendid one to beholdboxfiddler is a splendid one to beholdboxfiddler is a splendid one to behold
Send a message via Yahoo to boxfiddler
I tend to think the known guilty should get gruel and water once a day. Hand in hand, the unknown guilty shouldn't be in jail in the first place.
Justice is a hard task master. I think it's not likely to be found in existence at the corporate layer.

(Corporate in the largest sense of the word possible)
Share |
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 02-11-2010, 09:32 PM
Jim Gillum's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: 11-16-09
Location: Orange City, Florida
Posts: 4,508
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Jim Gillum is a web professional of the highest orderJim Gillum is a web professional of the highest orderJim Gillum is a web professional of the highest orderJim Gillum is a web professional of the highest orderJim Gillum is a web professional of the highest orderJim Gillum is a web professional of the highest orderJim Gillum is a web professional of the highest orderJim Gillum is a web professional of the highest orderJim Gillum is a web professional of the highest orderJim Gillum is a web professional of the highest orderJim Gillum is a web professional of the highest order
Can not accept any justification to allow inmates access to computers.....

They can write letters.(that can be censored) and call their attorneys on the phones that are provided in most modern jails for that purpose....

And to prepare to return to society.....70%+ will return to jail......

Some day the bleeding hearts will bleed out and some one will remember the victims....

So my official answer would be NO.....
__________________
Help For New Marketers
www.For-New-Marketers.Info/blog
www.Landscape-Art.Info My art discussion blog

Last edited by Jim Gillum; 02-11-2010 at 09:33 PM. Reason: spelling
Share |
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 02-13-2010, 11:05 AM
v7n Mentor
Latest Blog:
None

 
Join Date: 01-13-09
Posts: 1,429
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Allen Farlow is a web professional of the highest orderAllen Farlow is a web professional of the highest orderAllen Farlow is a web professional of the highest orderAllen Farlow is a web professional of the highest orderAllen Farlow is a web professional of the highest orderAllen Farlow is a web professional of the highest orderAllen Farlow is a web professional of the highest orderAllen Farlow is a web professional of the highest orderAllen Farlow is a web professional of the highest orderAllen Farlow is a web professional of the highest orderAllen Farlow is a web professional of the highest order
Of course they should not have access to the internet, not ever, not even to study up for their lawsuits questioning the verdict.

They were found guilty by their peers and they were sentenced to prison to be punished, not to be caudled and loved. If they have trouble assimilating back into society once they are released, that's their problem and I consider it to be part of their punishment.

If they re-offend upon release, obviously they didn't learn their lesson, so send them back to rot.

If prison is so easy as to be scoffed at, what threats will we have left to prevent people from crossing the line? I don't rob banks or kill people because I figure I'll get caught and be sent to prison. That's enough of a deterrent to keep me in line.

I'm sure it works for others as well.

I don't think they should have cigarettes, free medical care or weight benches and weights, either.

Heck, I don't even get free medical care!
__________________
.

Need an extra $300-$500 each weekend - in cash? Get Paid In Cash!

Learn How To Buy Almost Anything Wholesale and Save 70-90% Off Retail. Wal Mart does NOT sell for less! The Top 250
Share |
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 02-13-2010, 12:00 PM
Jim Gillum's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: 11-16-09
Location: Orange City, Florida
Posts: 4,508
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Jim Gillum is a web professional of the highest orderJim Gillum is a web professional of the highest orderJim Gillum is a web professional of the highest orderJim Gillum is a web professional of the highest orderJim Gillum is a web professional of the highest orderJim Gillum is a web professional of the highest orderJim Gillum is a web professional of the highest orderJim Gillum is a web professional of the highest orderJim Gillum is a web professional of the highest orderJim Gillum is a web professional of the highest orderJim Gillum is a web professional of the highest order
Money would be better spent in providing computers and net access to under privileged children......they are the future....

Criminals are no future....
__________________
Help For New Marketers
www.For-New-Marketers.Info/blog
www.Landscape-Art.Info My art discussion blog
Share |
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 02-13-2010, 05:17 PM
Moderator
Latest Blog:
None

 
Join Date: 02-14-08
Location: UK
Posts: 1,433
iTrader: 0 / 0%
anonymously is a web professional of the highest orderanonymously is a web professional of the highest orderanonymously is a web professional of the highest orderanonymously is a web professional of the highest orderanonymously is a web professional of the highest orderanonymously is a web professional of the highest orderanonymously is a web professional of the highest orderanonymously is a web professional of the highest orderanonymously is a web professional of the highest orderanonymously is a web professional of the highest orderanonymously is a web professional of the highest order
The UK have a problem with prisoners Facebook sites taunting their victims. We are looking at tightening rules on mobile phone usage (seems this is how they got their site) which is not allowed but does happen. I have no problem with prisoners having access to computers learning to use one might help with a job when they get out, just should not be connected to the internet.
__________________
______________________________________________
My opinions are my own and do not represent anyone else.
Share |
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 02-14-2010, 07:07 AM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: 08-18-08
Location: OHIO
Posts: 24
iTrader: 0 / 0%
OhioQuotes is on the right pathOhioQuotes is on the right path
Perhaps with heavy filtering. Educational sites might be fine. Social Network sites? No way!
Share |
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 02-14-2010, 04:58 PM
aimhigh's Avatar
Contributing Member
Latest Blog:
(no title)

 
Join Date: 02-11-08
Posts: 290
iTrader: 0 / 0%
aimhigh is a jewel in the roughaimhigh is a jewel in the roughaimhigh is a jewel in the roughaimhigh is a jewel in the roughaimhigh is a jewel in the roughaimhigh is a jewel in the roughaimhigh is a jewel in the rough
Send a message via Yahoo to aimhigh
I don't have any object if the inmates are using computers as long as it has no internet or they have to filter all the sites and all the site they access should be monitored.
__________________
This sig is gone until we quit making spam profiles. Replacing without admin approval will result in a ban.
Share |
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 02-14-2010, 05:20 PM
DocC's Avatar
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: 01-01-10
Location: Baja California
Posts: 3,243
iTrader: 1 / 100%
DocC is a web professional of the highest orderDocC is a web professional of the highest orderDocC is a web professional of the highest orderDocC is a web professional of the highest orderDocC is a web professional of the highest orderDocC is a web professional of the highest orderDocC is a web professional of the highest orderDocC is a web professional of the highest orderDocC is a web professional of the highest orderDocC is a web professional of the highest orderDocC is a web professional of the highest order
Nope! They're there because they screwed up, and they're being punished. If they want to study something, use the prison library. If they want to watch a movie... Saturday night is typical. Most prisons use the galley area for the weekly movie.

Other than that, let 'em make little ones out of big ones, or stamp license plates, fix potholes or sew flags. Pay 'em for their work, and bill 'em for their keep.
__________________
Doc Sheldon's Clinic
A repository of news, tips, tutorials, tools and opinion on SEO, CRO, SMM and SEM. Content Strategy Agency

Share |
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 02-14-2010, 08:24 PM
Al-Leyson's Avatar
Contributing Member
Latest Blog:
None

 
Join Date: 02-02-10
Posts: 124
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Al-Leyson is on the right pathAl-Leyson is on the right pathAl-Leyson is on the right path
Well, they should be given access to the internet. Because terrorists and other criminals who were not yet caught are using the internet for their own evil purposes, then why should the ones who are reforming inside jail should not be given internet access?
__________________
Free Ebook: How To Earn $100/m With 1 Simple Website That Takes Under 60 Minutes To Create.
[ Right Click > Save Target As ] to save it to your computer.
Share |
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 02-14-2010, 09:18 PM
Cricket's Avatar
V7N Administrator
 
Join Date: 10-13-03
Location: Texas
Posts: 38,244
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Cricket is supreme webmaster materialCricket is supreme webmaster materialCricket is supreme webmaster materialCricket is supreme webmaster materialCricket is supreme webmaster materialCricket is supreme webmaster materialCricket is supreme webmaster materialCricket is supreme webmaster materialCricket is supreme webmaster materialCricket is supreme webmaster materialCricket is supreme webmaster material
Quote:
Originally Posted by Al-Leyson View Post
Well, they should be given access to the internet. Because terrorists and other criminals who were not yet caught are using the internet for their own evil purposes, then why should the ones who are reforming inside jail should not be given internet access?
With that same reasoning, since terrorist and other criminals are using weapons for their own evil purposes we should go ahead and give prisoners weapons too?

Or, since terrorist are able to travel worldwide for evil purposes, I guess we should go ahead and let criminals travel too?

Better yet, since terrorist and other criminals are free, I guess we might as well let prisoners be free.
__________________
GNC Web Creations - Free Search Engine Optimization (SEO) Training Class
Website Development Training - Website Development Training Blog

Join V7N on Facebook today! facebook.com/V7Network
Share |
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 02-14-2010, 10:07 PM
Jim Gillum's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: 11-16-09
Location: Orange City, Florida
Posts: 4,508
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Jim Gillum is a web professional of the highest orderJim Gillum is a web professional of the highest orderJim Gillum is a web professional of the highest orderJim Gillum is a web professional of the highest orderJim Gillum is a web professional of the highest orderJim Gillum is a web professional of the highest orderJim Gillum is a web professional of the highest orderJim Gillum is a web professional of the highest orderJim Gillum is a web professional of the highest orderJim Gillum is a web professional of the highest orderJim Gillum is a web professional of the highest order
We could set them free....in the everglades........gators need to eat too.....
__________________
Help For New Marketers
www.For-New-Marketers.Info/blog
www.Landscape-Art.Info My art discussion blog
Share |
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 02-14-2010, 10:17 PM
DocC's Avatar
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: 01-01-10
Location: Baja California
Posts: 3,243
iTrader: 1 / 100%
DocC is a web professional of the highest orderDocC is a web professional of the highest orderDocC is a web professional of the highest orderDocC is a web professional of the highest orderDocC is a web professional of the highest orderDocC is a web professional of the highest orderDocC is a web professional of the highest orderDocC is a web professional of the highest orderDocC is a web professional of the highest orderDocC is a web professional of the highest orderDocC is a web professional of the highest order
I like the way you think, Jim!


@ Al-Leyson - if you really believe that prisoners in jail are reforming, then I think you haven't been paying much attention to what is going on around you in the world. The only thing that the vast majority of them are reforming, is their plan to escape capture, then next time around.
__________________
Doc Sheldon's Clinic
A repository of news, tips, tutorials, tools and opinion on SEO, CRO, SMM and SEM. Content Strategy Agency

Share |
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 02-14-2010, 10:21 PM
Jim Gillum's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: 11-16-09
Location: Orange City, Florida
Posts: 4,508
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Jim Gillum is a web professional of the highest orderJim Gillum is a web professional of the highest orderJim Gillum is a web professional of the highest orderJim Gillum is a web professional of the highest orderJim Gillum is a web professional of the highest orderJim Gillum is a web professional of the highest orderJim Gillum is a web professional of the highest orderJim Gillum is a web professional of the highest orderJim Gillum is a web professional of the highest orderJim Gillum is a web professional of the highest orderJim Gillum is a web professional of the highest order
Ya know DocC they really do learn more in jail...about how to do crimes......been years since I saw stats....but around 70% recommit......
__________________
Help For New Marketers
www.For-New-Marketers.Info/blog
www.Landscape-Art.Info My art discussion blog
Share |
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 02-14-2010, 11:51 PM
Contributing Member
Latest Blog:
None

 
Join Date: 11-30-09
Posts: 115
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Janedoe is on the right pathJanedoe is on the right path
No internet, but maybe yes to computers. Maybe they can play games on their computers and stay away from more trouble within the prison. But, there are other ways to keep them occupied so lets just say no computer and no internet.
__________________
greencard

Green Card USCIS
Share |
Reply With Quote
  #16 (permalink)  
Old 02-15-2010, 12:21 AM
Giselle's Avatar
Contributing Member
Latest Blog:
None

 
Join Date: 11-19-09
Location: Washington State
Posts: 69
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Giselle is liked by somebodyGiselle is liked by somebodyGiselle is liked by somebodyGiselle is liked by somebody
Definitely no internet access or computer access, basically I tend to agree with DocC's post about using the prison library, working for their keep. I don't believe in brutality, but not a country club setting either.
Share |
Reply With Quote
  #17 (permalink)  
Old 02-15-2010, 03:56 AM
Moderator
Latest Blog:
None

 
Join Date: 02-14-08
Location: UK
Posts: 1,433
iTrader: 0 / 0%
anonymously is a web professional of the highest orderanonymously is a web professional of the highest orderanonymously is a web professional of the highest orderanonymously is a web professional of the highest orderanonymously is a web professional of the highest orderanonymously is a web professional of the highest orderanonymously is a web professional of the highest orderanonymously is a web professional of the highest orderanonymously is a web professional of the highest orderanonymously is a web professional of the highest orderanonymously is a web professional of the highest order
In the UK situation that Cricket sites it was in fact, as I stated, that the concern was not from authorised use, which is very limited indeed but was from illegal use of mobile phones or friends on the outside which caused the problem
Quote:
British prisoners are banned from using social networking sites like Facebook. Britain — unlike many European countries — bars almost all inmates from access to the Internet, except for educational purposes under supervision. But authorities acknowledge that some have used smuggled mobile phones to update their pages, or have gotten friends on the outside to do it for them.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100211/...rs_on_facebook

I am glad on the whole that we take a view in the UK that we want to educate prisoners and try to encourage them to make something of their lives, rather than a habitual life of crime. So while there is an element of punishment in people being denied the benefit of their family home and protecting society, there is also elements of encouraging change and enabling that change to happen. Computers are an educational tool, and as in the UK where access to the internet is allowed it is strictly controlled.

People locked up with nothing to do and nothing to look forward to are a risk to themselves, other prisoners, the prison staff and ultimately to society.
__________________
______________________________________________
My opinions are my own and do not represent anyone else.

Last edited by anonymously; 02-15-2010 at 03:57 AM. Reason: typo and add url
Share |
Reply With Quote
  #18 (permalink)  
Old 02-15-2010, 05:12 AM
Banned
Latest Blog:
None

 
Join Date: 07-10-09
Location: Ortigas Center Pasig City
Posts: 967
iTrader: 0 / 0%
faye valentine is just really nicefaye valentine is just really nicefaye valentine is just really nicefaye valentine is just really nicefaye valentine is just really nicefaye valentine is just really nicefaye valentine is just really nicefaye valentine is just really nicefaye valentine is just really nicefaye valentine is just really nicefaye valentine is just really nice
Send a message via Yahoo to faye valentine
Well, i guess with a deeper limitations, they can only access the Internet by communication by their loved ones and some friends. (Sometime around, its too risky for conversation). But i guess, with a proper limitations and usage of the internet they can use the Internet without any risk.
Share |
Reply With Quote
  #19 (permalink)  
Old 02-15-2010, 06:30 AM
drmike's Avatar
Contributing Member
 
Join Date: 01-22-10
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 1,746
iTrader: 0 / 0%
drmike is a highly respected web prodrmike is a highly respected web prodrmike is a highly respected web prodrmike is a highly respected web prodrmike is a highly respected web prodrmike is a highly respected web prodrmike is a highly respected web prodrmike is a highly respected web prodrmike is a highly respected web prodrmike is a highly respected web prodrmike is a highly respected web pro
smuggled just to update their Facebook. That's pretty sad if you ask me.

Gotta admit I don't have a problem with computers and internet access when used to conjunction with legal research. The right of appeal is granted in most countries and limiting that right is not something I would agree with.

Have to admit though that I'm against the game playing and facebook updating though.
Share |
Reply With Quote
  #20 (permalink)  
Old 02-15-2010, 10:36 AM
Online Business Owner
Latest Blog:
None

 
Join Date: 08-15-06
Location: USA
Posts: 7,031
iTrader: 11 / 100%
Natural Elements is a web professional of the highest orderNatural Elements is a web professional of the highest orderNatural Elements is a web professional of the highest orderNatural Elements is a web professional of the highest orderNatural Elements is a web professional of the highest orderNatural Elements is a web professional of the highest orderNatural Elements is a web professional of the highest orderNatural Elements is a web professional of the highest orderNatural Elements is a web professional of the highest orderNatural Elements is a web professional of the highest orderNatural Elements is a web professional of the highest order
Yes, but with limitations and under some conditions like good behavior.

By this I mean, they are motivated to stay out of trouble and for educational purposes only.
__________________
Natural Elements
Bath and Body Products
Natural Bath and Body Product Guide
Share |
Reply With Quote
Go Back   Webmaster Forum > The Webmaster Forums > Forum Lobby > Controversial Social Issues

Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
*10 Days Only* Access To 100+ Best Internet Marketing Products For FREE! holyground The Webmaster Marketplace 0 07-02-2009 05:28 AM
The Internet User Account, Access Databases. cblock1025 Web Hosting Forum 1 04-18-2004 11:43 PM


Sponsor Links
Get exposure! Contextual Links V7N SEO Blog V7N Directory


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:28 AM.
Powered by vBulletin
Copyright © 2000-2011 Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.
Copyright © 2003 - 2011 Escalate Media LP




Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 RC 2 ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.