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Old 08-16-2011, 07:37 AM
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San Francisco Authorities Shut Down Cell Networks To Avoid Protests Over Killings

Perhaps you've all heard of this. Perhaps you haven't.

It would seem that freedom of speech is a threat to the authorities in the BART system. So much so, that they shut down cellular networks, affecting thousands of their passengers, to avoid an organized protest.

http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/1305...hone-blackout/

And when protest over the shut down took place, they threatened to shut everyone down again.

http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/1313...san-francisco/

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BART spokesman Linton Johnson said riders “don’t have the right to free speech inside the fare gates,” and threatened to shut it down at BART’s discretion in the future.
The claimed reason was "passenger safety".
Do you feel safer when your cell phone service is cut off?
 
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Old 08-18-2011, 08:30 AM
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Shutting down the cell service is a form of government censorship.
 
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Old 08-18-2011, 12:59 PM
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I say the people should organize and protest outside the home office of BART there. I also say they should boycott BART and find any way they can to travel in other ways. I know it can't be a complete boycott because plenty of people have to use them, but if people can cut into their business, then maybe something will get done. Also, inundate the state representatives and city council with mail about it too.
 
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Old 08-21-2011, 04:43 AM
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Vote with your wallet.
 
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Old 08-23-2011, 11:11 PM
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This is so beyond wrong that I don't have a clue where to start.

When did our rights disappear?
 
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Old 08-24-2011, 05:36 AM
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This is so beyond wrong that I don't have a clue where to start.

When did our rights disappear?
It didn't happen overnight. That would have been too obvious.
It has been a slow erosion of rights over time and it's been happening in many different, previously liberty minded, places around the globe.
We are being backed into a corner and, sooner or later, we're going to have to give up altogether, or start pushing back.
The ones that are backing us into that corner are betting on us giving up.
 
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Much the same as politicians who make absurd statements to attract partisan approval to win elections, and there being no recourse for those affected by the statement to seek grievances.

BART had no right to interrupt the cellular service by claiming a false concern for public safety when in fact they were taking away a right for their own self interest and apparently are being allowed to get away with the ploy.

The gov't should intervene and take them to court.
 
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Shutting down the cell service is a form of government censorship.
I think it is censorship of the highest kind.
 
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This is so beyond wrong that I don't have a clue where to start.

When did our rights disappear?
In 1865 a precedent was set that if government disagreed with the exercise of certain constitutional rights it could use any means it wanted, even military force, to bring the people into the will of the government. It was shown that a copy of the constitution couldn't stop a bullet.

It's been a constant erosion since then.
 
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Freedom of speech does not include provision of a forum in which to speak - it never has. You have a right to speak, you have no right to an audience.

This isn't a free speech issue, it's a public safety issue, and cellphone service in the system provides for more safety. (If someone suffers a heart attack, is it "safer" to pull the emergency cord and wait for help to arrive, searching the cars to find out why the train was stopped? Of course not.) If the people running BART don't want to hear complaints, let them not do things that cause complaints. They have that "freedom".
 
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