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Old 01-24-2012, 05:05 AM
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SOPA's gone, now it's ACTA time

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In October 2007, the United States, the European Community, Switzerland, and Japan simultaneously announced that they would negotiate a new intellectual property enforcement treaty the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement or ACTA. Australia, the Republic of Korea, New Zealand, Mexico, Jordan, Morocco, Singapore, the United Arab Emirates, and Canada have joined the negotiations. Although the proposed treaty’s title might suggest that the agreement deals only with counterfeit physical goods (such as medicines) what little information has been made available publicly by negotiating governments about the content of the treaty makes it clear that it will have a far broader scope and in particular will deal with new tools targeting “Internet distribution and information technology”.
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ACTA is being negotiated by industrialized countries outside of existing international multilateral venues for creating new IP norms such as the World Intellectual Property Organization and the World Trade Organization. Both civil society and developing countries are intentionally being excluded from these negotiations. The probable solution of copyright filtering by ISPs won't be technologically very effective since it can be bypassed with encryption efforts, network level filtering will involve deep inspection of citizens' Internet communications. The fact in question raises considerable concerns for civil liberties and privacy rights as well as the future of Internet innovation. Opinions?
 
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Old 01-24-2012, 05:17 AM
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Already on the fence.

AnonAustria is also taking action - Yesterday they DDosed some .gov sites and pro ACTA sites.

Well, I hope that the Austrian media is still free enough to give it the attention it deserves.
 
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Old 01-25-2012, 02:11 PM
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Any way they can find a way to scratch the back of their entertainment industry backers is what they'll try to push through.
 
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Old 01-25-2012, 07:28 PM
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Personally, I believe Europe faces similar protests like the ones in USA regarding SOPA. Time will tell...

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Polish people have showed they disagree with their country’s plan to sign an international treaty on copyright by holding a demonstration outside EU offices in Warsaw.

Thousands were out on the streets of the capital shouting ‘down with censorship’ in protest against the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement – known as ACTA.

The measure has provoked similar fury to that against the recently dropped US bill on piracy SOPA, and the another US bill dealing with intellectual property still progressing, known as PIPA.
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Old 01-26-2012, 03:49 AM
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President Obama Doesn’t Support SOPA, But Signs ACTA?

Take a look at the image in this blog post. You might not have to read the full blog post after looking at it.

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Move over SOPA, tell ACTA the news? Or is this more of a case of “move over SOPA, it’s ACTA time?” Or does, “Stop! ACTA time!” work? For me, it’s “just when you thought it was safe to go back on the web, ACTA happens.” That’s right folks, while SOPA/PIPA were being placed in the ditch as smoldering husks, President Obama signed the ACTA “treaty,” which is, at its most elementary, a multinational agreement that addresses intellectual property enforcement.

There are many issues involved with President Obama’s signing of the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement — which occurred in September 2011 — and whether or not it should be treated as an executive agreement or an actual treaty between the agreeing countries. With an executive agreement, the President does..
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Old 01-26-2012, 07:19 AM
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Take a look at the image in this blog post. You might not have to read the full blog post after looking at it.
I've seen that face before. It's the political standard face v.8.2 "yeah it's gonna be good for you - not."

The blog post actually raises interesting question, was the political elite against SOPA simply out of fear of public perception or did they sacrifice a pawn in order to get the king? Because there is so little known about ACTA, one can only assume the content.

Hope you won't mind if I put the same video here, I believe it raises important issues

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I've seen that face before. It's the political standard face v.8.2 "yeah it's gonna be good for you - not."
HaHa. Love it. So true.


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The blog post actually raises interesting question, was the political elite against SOPA simply out of fear of public perception or did they sacrifice a pawn in order to get the king? Because there is so little known about ACTA, one can only assume the content.

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Very interesting point. Is ACTA really what they were after all along, so that SOPA and PIPA were really smoke screens. They say the best magicians were good at one thing, misdirection.
 
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Ugh, I guess they aren't going to stop, until they succeed in ruining the internet.
 
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Old 01-27-2012, 01:55 AM
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I was thinking the same thing actually. It just seemed really odd that jus as SOPA/PIPA were banished to the graveyard, out pops ACTA, and its already signed before anyone could really do anything about it (with the US signing).

How many other countries support it, or want to support it?

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Old 01-27-2012, 02:09 AM
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How many other countries support it, or want to support it?
To many, 22 in fact. They already signed up to ACTA

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/...gns-up-to-acta

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Acta -- which is supported by many rights owners -- has been met with widespread criticism from open rights activists, who argue that the legislation has been rushed through the legal system under the guise of being a trade agreement, when in fact it is a new copyright law. They also argue that it blurs the distinction between piracy and counterfeiting and that it criminalises copyright infringement when there are civil sanctions already.

Representatives from the European Union and 22 member states -- including the UK, Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, France, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxemburg, Malta, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovenia, Spain and Sweden -- attended a ceremony at Japan's Ministry of Foreign Affairs. The five remaining member states -- Cyprus, Germany, Estonia Netherlands and Slovakia, are expected to sign up soon.
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http://anoncentral.org/2012/01/in-pr...anonymous-guy/

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In protest of ACTA, Polish Parliament members wear Anonymous Guy Fawkes masks in chambers on 26 January 2012. ps: this is what winning looks like…
 
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hmmm. For me this is pointing more and more toward the fact that SOPA was nothing but a smoke screen.
 
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Here is a short video which explains ACTA in a simple way.

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hmmm. For me this is pointing more and more toward the fact that SOPA was nothing but a smoke screen.
Well, feels like a double smoke screen. SOPA/PIPA is not dead, just suspended. They probably wait till after the election and hope that the new president will support sopa.

In the meantime, everyone will be against ACTA. Perfect smokescreen to get more and more support for SOPA/PIPA, or to push a similar law through.

They could also wait for another 'crisis' which they (US and EU) could use as pretense (to fight terrorism etc ).
 
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Old 01-27-2012, 08:50 AM
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I was thinking the same thing actually. It just seemed really odd that jus as SOPA/PIPA were banished to the graveyard, out pops ACTA, and its already signed before anyone could really do anything about it (with the US signing).

How many other countries support it, or want to support it?
If the major countries involved in the intellectual property infingement do not sign, they shoot themselves in their foot.

It is amazing how things are signed behind the counter so fast.
 
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This whole SOPA, ACTA and PIPA thing reminds of the Film Actors Guild in Team America.
 
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EU also agreed on ACTA, here is a list of countries currently supporting it. The catch is the treaty should still pass European Parliament, so maybe a public discussion could change something.

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Most member states of the European Union have signed the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA) at a ceremony in Tokyo, Japan on Thursday, Jan. 26.
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Unfortunately (and unlike SOPA and PIPA), ACTA has been signed by many states without a wide, open public discussion. Australia, Canada, Japan, South Korea, Morocco, New Zealand, Singapore and the United States signed the ACTA on 1 Oct 2011.

As of yesterday, they are joined by Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, France, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxemburg, Malta, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden and the United Kingdom.
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SOPA/ PIPA were only in the US right? But ACTA is international. Now, more than ever it seems like a cover up. How much worse is acta than SOPA/PIPA.?
 
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How much worse is acta than SOPA/PIPA.?
To my understanding, it will give every government an obligation to enforce the copywright protection as they see fit. In essence, in the USA almost all the parameters of SOPA could be implemented through the ACTA. For the rest of the world, to each his own. But I don't see how can it possibly have good effects on the web. It's a wicked political game imho
 
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As of right now, many Europeans are protesting against ACTA, but we'll see if it makes a difference. It's quasi-signed as the EU parliament will have to sign it in officially after a review this summer so there might be a reprieve until then.

No matter what we do, it seems like they just keep coming out with another version, leaving a slue of possibilities with the older versions. It's like they're trying to wear out the demonstrators and those opposed through attrition, with backups just in case that can come in from the flanks (SOPA/PIPA). I just don't see the people beating think tanks that just keep popping out acronyms.
 
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The French MEP who resigned his position in charge of negotiating the international Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (Acta) has said it "goes too far" by potentially cutting access to lifesaving generic drugs and restricting internet freedom.

In an exclusive interview with the Guardian, Kader Arif – a member of the European parliament's international trade group, who was the lead negotiator over Acta – said that despite talks over the agreement having begun in 2007, "the European parliament, which represents the rights of the people, had no access to this mandate, neither had it information of the position defended by the commission or the demands of the other parties to the agreement".
Full article here.

First major issues in the European are coming to light...
 
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