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Old 04-18-2012, 01:13 PM
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Moms: 'I can't afford to work'

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After factoring in the rising cost of child care, the daily commute and other work-related expenses, a growing number of mothers are figuring out that having a job just doesn't pay.

"It comes down to a cost analysis and I have several clients that have taken the route of quitting," said Anna Behnam, a financial advisor at Ameriprise Financial in Rockville, Md. "Factor in taxes, transportation costs, clothing and lunch -- what is the true net that you bring home after salary?"

Over the past few years, the debate over which lifestyle is more financially feasible -- working and paying for child care versus staying at home -- has come up more often among Behnam's clients than ever before.

For most working parents, child care is by far the greatest expense. In 2010, the cost of putting two children in child care exceeded median annual rent payments in every state, according to a report by Child Care Aware of America.

The recent run up in gas prices has only pinched paychecks further, shaving 8.7% off of the average worker's annual income, according to the Oil Price Information Service. And then there are the rest of the expenses that add up for workers, including clothing and dining out during the day, which are also on the rise.

Andrea Hayken, 34, made about $45,000 a year as a third grade teacher in the Fairfax, Va. county public school system. But licensed daycare for her now four-year-old son would have cost $2,000 a month, eating up nearly half of her before-tax income.

Child care costs are killing us!
Since her husband, an attorney, earned more money than she did, it made more sense for Hayken to be the one to stay home.

"When all was said and done, there just wasn't enough money to make [working] worth it," she said.
http://money.cnn.com/2012/04/18/pf/moms-work/

I agree with these moms.

Please read first the entire article and tell us what are your thoughts on this subject?
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Old 04-18-2012, 04:31 PM
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Gasoline prices may have increased the pinch but it has not made sense for over 30 years. Especially when the second worker needs decent clothes for the job along with the auto and meals.
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Gasoline prices may have increased the pinch but it has not made sense for over 30 years. Especially when the second worker needs decent clothes for the job along with the auto and meals.
There is more than that. For example, the inequality maintained by corporation policy of wage between men and women, just to cite one.
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I read this and first thought, well that makes sense. But I tend to question articles like this, so I check on day care rates in Fairfax, Va. - Guess what, they don't work out either.

Fairfax county has a website that includes child care rates for the area. Here is the link: http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/ofc/AvCostCare.htm

Sort of blows the $2000 a month out of the water.

I also don't like that the article implies that if you don't drive somewhere, that you don't have a job.
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There is more than that. For example, the inequality maintained by corporation policy of wage between men and women, just to cite one.
This is a huge and complicated issue related to things like the fact that women frequently take time to have and raise families which eats into their work history which affects their salaries. A lot of women choose liberal arts degrees that don't always translate into the highest paying jobs. When I used to be at a corporation, most of the women in the building were admins, and support staff. The engineers were mostly men... and me. There were times that I was not paid as much as I felt that I deserved, so I quit and found work elsewhere. At the last company I worked for, most of the men had been there for YEARS and they all made more than the new folks. Had nothing to do with the amount or quality of their work.

Thank goodness my response was to strike out on my own and start my own business... the first one I tried failed but eventually I have found something I love.

I don't think this is the core issue with why it's cheaper for a woman to stay at home. I think that ScriptMan is correct. Two income families are an incredible waste of resources unless you can find a way for someone to work effectively at home and reduce the amount of paid child care. (Speaking from experience here as I've worked at home the entire time I've had kids.)

I have one girlfriend who is a nuclear safety specialist at a national laboratory so her husband stays home with the kids. Just makes sense.

I think that the 2-income family mentality has driven up consumer spending and debt, driven up the price of homes and generally stretched thin the fabric of our families.

Please understand that I'm about as un-traditional of a woman as they come but I think that when it comes to families, you can't have it all. You just have different and given a chance it can be better than a person could imagine.
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Please understand that I'm about as un-traditional of a woman as they come but I think that when it comes to families, you can't have it all. You just have different and given a chance it can be better than a person could imagine.
Actually you made a great post.

I think these days, mom or dad staying home to take care of the kid(s) is very noble and yes this kind of living style avoid waste and superfluous junk spending.
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It does, and it doesn't. I work from home. I don't have to drive there, but its still a Job, and one that makes a difference in the household. I am here when the girls get home from school, so I don't need to worry about childcare. I am not saying that every woman needs to find work online either, I'm just saying that where there is a will there is a way. I might not really be part of the corporate world physically, but the work I do on a daily basis is actually corporate for the most part.
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I have one girlfriend who is a nuclear safety specialist at a national laboratory so her husband stays home with the kids. Just makes sense.

I think that the 2-income family mentality has driven up consumer spending and debt, driven up the price of homes and generally stretched thin the fabric of our families.
All good and I believe correct points.

When our youngest started school the wife went back to work. I arranged my appointments to be home by the time school was out. The was an 'emergency key' left in lock box for the unexpected delay.
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