Obama's Daughters "Senior Staffers"?

[stephengfm]

Originally Posted by Zap

Next time I see Michelle Obama, I'll tell her that Jesus remembers her.
That'll stop her from ripping off the taxpayers in the future, I'm sure.

When you do meet her then tell her that Jesus loves her.

[G10]

One thing Christ never did and didn't want to do, is mix politics and religion, he never got involved in political affairs, so let's not take the seat above him and do it here and stick to the topic at hand. Now that would be nice

[stephengfm]

Originally Posted by G10

One thing Christ never did and didn't want to do, is mix politics and religion, he never got involved in political affairs, so let's not take the seat above him and do it here and stick to the topic at hand. Now that would be nice

Please provide evidence of that in the Bible?

[G10]

Why? How does it fit into the thread at hand?

I am trying to steer this back on topic and not lure it into a discussion on forgiving the president just because Rob is just as bad... (or probably worse!)

[Weebitty]

Yes I didn't post this to start a conversation on religion which has no place in this topic. None of the politicians are worth a d****mmmm in my humble opinion. I am just trying to show how they get away with crap at our expense. While people can't feed their families and lose their jobs and homes.

[stephengfm]

Originally Posted by Weebitty

I am just trying to show how they get away with crap at our expense.

You don't even know the half of it. I lived in Northern Virginia for five years. I worked just off Pennsylvania Avenue and would walk around the outside of the White House very often during my lunch breaks or whenever else.

You don't even know the half of it.

[G10]

Originally Posted by stephengfm

You don't even know the half of it. I lived in Northern Virginia for five years. I worked just off Pennsylvania Avenue and would walk around the outside of the White House very often during my lunch breaks or whenever else.

You don't even know the half of it.

If you're talking about the sacrificial witchcraft the politicians perform on the White House public lawns for all to see every wednesday afternoon, I thought this was stopped when tourists started to complain

Though I admit to being curious as to what you saw.

[robjones]

If anyone has thoughts on the actual subject... dive in anytime. Meanwhile, sorry, but I didn't make enough for the whole class.

[txshellie]

Back on topic....

It's reprehensible that children would be listed as Sr Staffers in a junket designed to let a few politicians, their families and members of the press live like royalty for 4 years.

As far as Presidents and their misuse or misappropration of funds - I never remember hearing about this kind of stuff with either Clintons or the two Bushes .... or Reagan.

One side question I really have to ask is that at this time in the American economy why in the world are the Obama's seeing the world?

Can't they go to Vermont during the fall and comment about the wonderful dairy farmers and their cheese .... maybe providing a well needed boost to their local economy.

The last I looked the beaches in Florida and California were superb and a fine place to spend Spring Break.

I'd like to see the man holding the highest office in our Country act like he knows his geography and when he goes on vacation choose local hot spots.

[G10]

What I want to know is what is the presidents annual wage and secondly exactly does the president pay for?

Somehow I am doubting that he get's stung every year with the electric amd gas bills etc.

Why they couldn't just pay for the extra members and set an example instead of setting an example that it is ok to rip America off. With him as a roll model example, no wonder the damned country is in economic crisis.

That said, there is no way he is the first to do this, I am pretty sure a lot of them have done it just not been caught.

[Haley]

So while the rest of us are struggling to make ends meet for our families, they're out ripping off the money that gets torn from our paychecks?
-sigh-
I'm seriously losing faith in humanity.

[stephengfm]

Originally Posted by Haley

So while the rest of us are struggling to make ends meet for our families, they're out ripping off the money that gets torn from our paychecks?
-sigh-
I'm seriously losing faith in humanity.

It doesn't come from your taxes.

It actually comes from Ben Bernanke printing more money via the Federal Reserve.

That money will never, ever, be paid back.

If you study History, then you will see that every country that ever existed eventually defaults or ramps up the printing presses.

Much of Europe is headed for a Default. The others nations of the world will ramp up the printing presses.

[Haley]

Originally Posted by stephengfm

It doesn't come from your taxes.

It actually comes from Ben Bernanke printing more money via the Federal Reserve.

That money will never, ever, be paid back.

If you study History, then you will see that every country that ever existed eventually defaults or ramps up the printing presses.

Much of Europe is headed for a Default. The others nations of the world will ramp up the printing presses.

Is that a fact? Or just another one of your opinions?
Can you prove it?

[Zap]

Originally Posted by stephengfm

It doesn't come from your taxes.

It actually comes from Ben Bernanke printing more money via the Federal Reserve.

I will take great comfort in the fact that the money is not taken from my left pocket via taxes, but is instead taken from my right pocket via inflation.

[stephengfm]

Originally Posted by Haley

Is that a fact? Or just another one of your opinions?
Can you prove it?

Ever check this history of the total National Debt?

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

It hasn't ever gone down. It hasn't ever been paid back.

Inflation always goes up.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...769703,00.html

Go study the topic about debt default from the Germans. The masters of it.

http://www.cato.org/zimbabwe

Or study the masterful hyperinflation of Zimbabwe.

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/...eir-debts.html

And here is a nice historian's book directly on point.

[stephengfm]

Originally Posted by Zap

I will take great comfort in the fact that the money is not taken from my left pocket via taxes, but is instead taken from my right pocket via inflation.

Sad but true.

[Haley]

Originally Posted by stephengfm

Ever check this history of the total National Debt?

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

It hasn't ever gone down. It hasn't ever been paid back.

Inflation always goes up.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...769703,00.html

Go study the topic about debt default from the Germans. The masters of it.

http://www.cato.org/zimbabwe

Or study the masterful hyperinflation of Zimbabwe.

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/...eir-debts.html

And here is a nice historian's book directly on point.

All of that is nice and peachy, but I'm still failing to see where you proved the Obama's trip did NOT come out of the American peoples' taxes.

[robjones]

The trip/vacation outing was clearly taken on the taxpayer dime, even if that dime is worth less than a nickel.

[stephengfm]

Originally Posted by Haley

All of that is nice and peachy, but I'm still failing to see where you proved the Obama's trip did NOT come out of the American peoples' taxes.

Tax Revenue is far lower than what the nation spends. The difference between the money the nation spends and the tax revenue comes from the borrowing or the printing of money.

The last wasted dollar spent comes from the borrowing or the printing of money not from tax collections, because if it were not spent, then the nation would not have to borrow it.

As the Obama's allegedly spent money on the trip, that money was the last wasted dollar. If the Obama's did not waste the money, then you would still pay the same taxes and we as a nation would just borrow less.

However, this does not change the fact that the money came from borrowing or printing which will never be paid back.

And if you disagree about the national debt being paid back, then show me any modern nation anywhere that has paid off (permanently retired) a national debt.

[Haley]

Originally Posted by stephengfm

Tax Revenue is far lower than what the nation spends. The difference between the money the nation spends and the tax revenue comes from the borrowing or the printing of money.

The last wasted dollar spent comes from the borrowing or the printing of money not from tax collections, because if it were not spent, then the nation would not have to borrow it.

As the Obama's allegedly spent money on the trip, that money was the last wasted dollar. If the Obama's did not waste the money, then you would still pay the same taxes and we as a nation would just borrow less.

However, this does not change the fact that the money came from borrowing or printing which will never be paid back.

And if you disagree about the national debt being paid back, then show me any modern nation anywhere that has paid off (permanently retired) a national debt.

-sigh-
You see that thing up there WAAAAAY over your head?
Yeah, that's my point.
I'm gonna respectfully remove myself from this thread now.
Toodles.