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Old 08-16-2012, 09:50 AM
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Exclamation This doesn't surprise me at all

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar...6_DNL_artNew_2

Monsanto has been having more and more power over goverment. Pay attention people.
 
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Old 08-16-2012, 05:09 PM
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There are a few scary points within that article, but I must say, what scared me the most from the first section is......
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This rider would allow biotech crops to be planted even if a federal court has ordered planting to be halted until an Environmental Impact Statement has been completed. It also puts restrictions on regulations, and allows fast-track approval of genetically engineered (GE) crops, despite the fact that the US is already the only developed country that does not require safety testing of GE plants.
That comment alone speaks volumes and tells the rest of the world just how the US has been bought by these boys.

The UK is pretty advanced in its research into crops genetic alterations and we decided to kick them out due to farmer and public protests. Other countries place restrictions on them but the US gives them free reign testing grounds on its own people.

Thing is if you think about it, who is at fault here, Monsanto or the US government for allowing this?
 
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Old 08-16-2012, 06:21 PM
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The idiots who keep voting for them.
 
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Old 08-16-2012, 06:24 PM
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The Farmers Assurance provision, dubbed the Monsanto Protection Act by Food Democracy Now, is a perfect example of just how insidious the collusion between the biotech industry and Washington really is, and how easily and nonchalantly they undermine our most basic rights.

The rider was added by the agricultural sub-committee chair Jack Kingston (R-Ga.). Not surprisingly, Kingston was voted "legislator of the year for 2011-2012" by the Biotechnology Industry Organization.

R-Ga ... not that I am partisan but who would doubt the above is in full agreement with the Policies and Principles of the Tea Party Republican party.

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Old 08-16-2012, 06:27 PM
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The idiots who keep voting for them.
Normally, long ago, I would have agreed with this.
But time has shown it doesn't matter which group is in power, the corporations win.
Kinda hard to blame the populace when they only have the illusion of choice and not real choice.
 
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Old 08-16-2012, 06:36 PM
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Normally, long ago, I would have agreed with this.
But time has shown it doesn't matter which group is in power, the corporations win.
Kinda hard to blame the populace when they only have the illusion of choice and not real choice.
Exactly, the corporations always win as they have ways of buying the right people so that decisions are passed in their favour and information witheld.

As we used to say when I worked for certain corpoorations, "the information is not false, the figures may have just been massaged a little" (in our favour of course).

In other countries, it is harder for them to buy into political systems which is why they get a tough time everywhere else except the USA. Oh, and very poor countries that get subsidised by them for taking their stuff... India for example.
 
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Old 08-16-2012, 10:22 PM
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We have the best politicians that money can buy....
 
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Old 08-17-2012, 05:16 AM
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We have the best politicians that money can buy....
We have the same parasite problem here.
It's time for the host to throw off the parasite, methinks.
 
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Old 08-17-2012, 09:24 AM
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With an Army of 12,000 lobbyists and about as many counselors (mostly former congresssmen), the National Corporations and Multi National Corporations have some beautiful days ahead to influence... uh...to buy the laws they want.
 
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Old 08-17-2012, 05:57 PM
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People have got to realize that the vote is one of the few weapons we have against the continued draining of our rights....

Gotta' keep kicking out the old and hope the new is a little better...
 
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Old 08-17-2012, 06:04 PM
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Jim, I almost agree with you but I think the problem lays more with what the public are told (or not told in this case).

You see, a lot of society are good and want the best for people and their families, so how is it that these things happen?.... Quite simple really, keep as much as possible away from the public, the less they know, the less they have to lobby against.

Many corporations use this tactic and I am sure we can all think of events in our lives where companies have witheld the information.

The difference is here, you pay a few people underhand and they try to make sure nothing is said.

Voting for the next guy isn't the answer sadly. The answer lays more with society demanding transparency with the information and if they don't get it, just boycotting as much of the products made by the company as possible as this affects shareholders and sends their stocks into trouble, and then they listen..... Corporations only listen when it affects their pockets.
 
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Old 08-19-2012, 03:36 AM
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The average person probably does not know which questions to ask or does not have a forum to ask them.....

The theory of "get the next one"......is the hope that the next one will "open" the book, disclose the true facts....and openly seek input from the public...
 
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Old 08-19-2012, 12:10 PM
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A stunning rider, ironically named “the Farmers Assurance provision” (Section 733), has been added to the 2013 Agricultural Appropriations bill, aka the Farm Bill. This provision, if passed into law, will essentially grant biotech companies like Monsanto free reign to act with impunity.

This rider would allow biotech crops to be planted even if a federal court has ordered planting to be halted until an Environmental Impact Statement has been completed. It also puts restrictions on regulations, and allows fast-track approval of genetically engineered (GE) crops, despite the fact that the US is already the only developed country that does not require safety testing of GE plants.

... has been added to the 2013 Agricultural Appropriations bill

1. This rider would allow biotech crops to be planted even if a federal court has ordered planting to be halted -

2. It also puts restrictions on regulations -

3. allows fast-track approval of genetically engineered (GE) crops, despite the fact that the US is already the only developed country that does not require safety testing of GE plants.


against court intervention - restricts regulations - not requiring safety testing


what is a little surprising is the above posters by and large do support the underlying premisses the rider is based on: against court intervention - restricts regulations - not requiring (safety) testing. IMO

Sponsoring what the posters refer to as Limited Government and of course "Freedom" ... and sometimes getting what they ask for.


Efficient Gov't will never be accomplished by diversifying / diluting information to multiple levels of review and decentralizing Authority. All roads must lead to Rome is a metaphor if real progress in solving / passing basic legislation in managing the state of affairs is ever accomplished.

At any rate the AG Bill is now a football in a compressed election cycle that very well may become a lightning rod for just the kind of discussion and outcome either party will use to its advantage for exposing whatever may be its underlying political / ethical message everyone seems willing to stand for if they knew what that might actually mean.
 
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Old 08-20-2012, 08:25 AM
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what is a little surprising is the above posters by and large do support the underlying premisses the rider is based on: against court intervention - restricts regulations - not requiring (safety) testing. IMO

Sponsoring what the posters refer to as Limited Government and of course "Freedom" ... and sometimes getting what they ask for.
There's a HUGE difference between ...

1. Keeping government regulations to a minimum and ensuring simplicity and accountability within law.

and ...

2. Allowing corporations to willfully disregard regulation and suffer no consequences as a result.

The 2 concepts are miles apart.
 
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Old 08-20-2012, 08:49 AM
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sounds good to me ... ^

it will be interesting whether sub-committee chair Jack Kingston will be brought to task for his rider if / when the Ag. bill is voted on in the full House, where the rider is passed by the committee or in conference between House and Senate.
 
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Old 08-20-2012, 08:57 AM
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How can people draft a law that says someone can disregard another law?
That's perplexing.
 
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