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Old 10-18-2012, 08:03 AM
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Obama suggests he would seek to revive ban on assault weapons

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Democratic President Barack Obama and Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney engaged in a rare tussle over gun control on Tuesday, and Obama opened the door to pushing for a ban on assault weapons if he wins a second term.

During their second election debate, both men largely danced around a gun-control question, a reflection of how they are wary of offending voters who support gun rights.

However, Obama did say that he would back an assault-weapons ban like the one President Bill Clinton signed in 1994. That law expired in 2004 without being renewed by Congress.

Romney signed such a ban as governor of Massachusetts, but he has indicated that he would not support banning assault weapons as president. He did not say why his stance is different now, but in winning the Republican nomination he courted conservative voters who generally oppose gun restrictions, and he was endorsed by the influential National Rifle Association.

The president, once an ardent proponent of the assault-weapons ban, has done little to push such a proposal forward during his time in the White House. When Attorney General Eric Holder mentioned the possibility in early 2009, the White House backed away from such talk.

But on Tuesday night, Obama appeared to endorse a push for the ban if he is elected to a second term.

"What I'm trying to do is to get a broader conversation about how do we reduce the violence generally," Obama said during the debate at Hofstra University. "Part of it is seeing if we can get an assault weapons ban reintroduced."
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Decidly, these guys will never learn from the past. The assault weapon ban didn't reduce crimes and never will. In contrast more guns will generate less crimes.

I wouldn't vote for an anti guns US President!
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Old 10-18-2012, 12:45 PM
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What will you do if they change their position....after they get elected?

Or fail to provide ALL the promised relief to our country?
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Old 10-18-2012, 01:08 PM
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What will you do if they change their position....after they get elected?

Or fail to provide ALL the promised relief to our country?
It is a difficult question to answer, I guess both Presidential candidates at the beginning are not in favor of the 2nd amendment whatever they say.

They want to regulate people who already obey the laws and are safety-minded, and conscientious gun owners.
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Old 10-24-2012, 04:05 PM
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I just cant imaggine anyone being crazy enough to try to implement it. I really think this will never happen.
 
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Old 10-25-2012, 03:52 AM
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Gees yeah - can't ban assault weapons, the crime rate would just skyrocket.

Here in Sunny Queensland we have just seen our crime rate soar by 6%. It's a little inflated because it's been going down for 12 years. There were 42 murders last year for a population of 4.5 million - horrendous. Nearly all solved because they were domestics.

Just imagine how the murder rate would go down if we could all have a gun.
 
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there is a reason we have the right to bear arms
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good luck ... all firearms should be lever action with minimal (ammunition) capacity.
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good luck ... all firearms should be lever action with minimal (ammunition) capacity.
Gun bans don't stop criminals. Gun bans don't even make guns go away.
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Gun bans don't stop criminals. Gun bans don't even make guns go away.
I have guns ... practicality and for home defense

why do gun enthusiast always relate gun ownership to criminality ??? -

fighting crime is not gun ownership but a response - fighting crime and owning a gun are two distinct categories that are not really related ... I do not buy a car because that is what my neighbor does.
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why do gun enthusiast always relate gun ownership to criminality ???
It is very simple, legal gun owners are criminalized, and demonized each time there is a crazy event involving mentally ill shooters.

If you want to stop crimes, do something against criminals, not the law abiding citizen!
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What will you do if they change their position....after they get elected?

Or fail to provide ALL the promised relief to our country?
well that, as always, is a major concern when it comes to any president or elected officlal.

i kinda wish i just have my own country... any one who likes the rules can enter

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Seriously.. it is crazy to ban weapons from cillvialns when goverments have very bad track records.
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Natural, guns are a weapon and a threat to everyone who is around them not just to their owners ... and why responsible firearm legislation is warranted.
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Seriously.. it is crazy to ban weapons from cillvialns when goverments have very bad track records.
I agree, watch the video below.


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Natural, guns are a weapon and a threat to everyone who is around them not just to their owners ... and why responsible firearm legislation is warranted.
Breeze, the founding fathers of this country knew the importance of the 2nd amendment. Why leaders are swearing on the Constitution and than trying to ignore it?

Ask any government declaring war, you will see that most of the time the civilians without guns or weapons are the first to die.

Remember what happen when self defense is against the laws.

Innocents Betrayed - The History of Gun Control

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I love it.

Marijuana has been illegal to own, possess, sell or use for over half a century, and the guy that lives in a city named "Pot Capitol 2011" thinks outlawing guns will make them unavailable.

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I agree, watch the video below.




Breeze, the founding fathers of this country knew the importance of the 2nd amendment. Why leaders are swearing on the Constitution and than trying to ignore it?

Ask any government declaring war, you will see that most of the time the civilians without guns or weapons are the first to die.

Remember what happen when self defense is against the laws.

Innocents Betrayed - The History of Gun Control

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A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

if you read the Constitution ... keep and bear Arms - is not infringed by their regulation.


... all firearms should be lever action with minimal (ammunition) capacity, is a Constitutionally acceptable regulation.

we just need enough sane people to pass it into Law.
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... all firearms should be lever action with minimal (ammunition) capacity, is a Constitutionally acceptable regulation.
In your opinion, that arbitrary limitation makes sense, possibly because it accomplishes whatever need you personally have. That is however not likely to be shared by the vast majority of gun owners. [Don't take my word, feel free to visit them on other venues to verify that. ]

We'd be foolish to limit citizens to lever action while allowing the military {ours or others}, the police, and the drug lords that buy from the Obama administration such a vastly superior advantage in small arms. We, the citizens of the US, collectively ARE the militia.

In effect, you're saying the federal government has authority to limit the right to bear arms to arms to ONLY include technology developed in the 1860s and outmoded by the end of that century. By that reasoning, they could outlaw the internet and limit your freedom of speech to nothing more dangerous than a telegraph.

The number of crimes actually committed in the US with this type gun is negligible. A ban is another example of government building a dam where there isn't a river to stop. The gun grabbers are a tiny portion of society, much smaller than when Clinton passed his ban. Any politician that listens to them can say adios to DC. That's the recourse we have when politicians decide to limit our freedoms. We fire them.
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... all firearms should be lever action with minimal (ammunition) capacity, is a Constitutionally acceptable regulation.

we just need enough sane people to pass it into Law.
Let me tell you something, what you just mentioned is an open door for only allowing 22 cal bolt action or guns with pellets guns.

WE DON'T NEED A FIREARMS STANDARD, ALL RESTRICTIONS AND REGULATIONS ARE ONE STEP AWAY FROM INTERDICTION.

You don't get it don't you?

PUNISHING THE LEGAL GUN OWNERS WILL NOT AVOID THE MENTALLY ILL OR CRIMINALS TO DO THEIR INSANE MURDERER ACTIONS.

It is not is a Constitutionally acceptable regulation and never will.

I am a NRA life member and I will always support the 2nd amendment!
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