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Old 10-25-2012, 09:20 PM
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Excerpted from The Daily Caller: A group of ex-soldiers are buying TV ads attacking President Barack Obama that will run during the first showing of a pro-Obama movie created by his Hollywood backers.

The made-for-TV movie, “Seal Team Six: The Raid on Osama Bin Laden,” is slated to run Nov. 4 on the National Geographic Channel. It was produced by Obama supporter and mega-donor Harvey Weinstein.

Weinstein reportedly ordered that the film be re-edited to give Obama a central role in directing the daring raid that successfully killed Osama bin Laden. Weinstein’s movie is so pro-Obama that National Geographic refused to run until Weinstein removed a scene portraying Gov. Mitt Romney as an opponent of the strike.

The group, dubbed OPSEC, is buying the anti-Obama ads on local cable systems in swing-state cities like Tampa, Orlando, Miami, Denver, Las Vegas, Charlotte, Raleigh, Cincinnati and Richmond.

“There is nothing acceptable about playing politics with national security and American lives,” says Scott Taylor, former Navy SEAL and president of OPSEC, in an voice-over on the ad. “Aren’t some things more important than politics?”
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one way or another i sense propaganda ladden thick here somewere
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this is the video the SEALs created.
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Old 10-30-2012, 02:36 PM
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I have worked for corporations for long enough (UK banks, IBM etc) to know that if you want to know how things are trully working, you speak to your ground level staff and not the big boys/boss's.

Cover-ups that always happen at the higher level are alwaysd the worst kind and come in 2 types.

1, Bad publicity = Boss washes his/her hands from all responsibility or denies as much as possible.

2, Good publicity = Boss takes all credit for what the staff (or in this case, forces) did and claims to have been in the loop all the way.

This is common throughout all corporations and the government is no exception.

This strikes me as the ground level staff (forces) have just about had enough of a team (government) trying to cover things up or trying to pass the buck on what happened.

Respect to the military guys for speaking up as they really must be p!ssed if they swore to support their nation and then feel like they are being hung out to dry.
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how about: "Mission Accomplished" - George Bush 2003 the Iraqi War. -

the military is not meant to take sides ... or is owned and operated by political parties.
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the military is not meant to take sides ...
While I agree that the "military" should obey the chain of command and not take sides, the individual men and women who serve did not surrender their right to free speech in most cases. And damn sure sure retired military people have all their rights restored.
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how about: "Mission Accomplished" - George Bush 2003 the Iraqi War. -

the military is not meant to take sides ... or is owned and operated by political parties.
I agree, even with the George Bush 2003, that is wrong also, though there is one fundamental problem here.

The military works for the government and is owned by the political parties, though respect is a two-way thing and if you leave your military out to dry (or in this case, die), then they should have every right to kick off and make their voices heard.

Any man/woman that lays their life on the line for their country SHOULD be offered the same respect from their respective governments.

We (the UK) made mistakes in the past with our military and it is something to be ashamed of and will never forget.

Your government has no choice but to shift blame or play ignorance because if it ever comes out that THEY KNEW and hung their men out to dry, then there should be some heads rolling, starting at the top if they knew.
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Old 10-30-2012, 04:19 PM
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how about: "Mission Accomplished" - George Bush 2003 the Iraqi War. -

the military is not meant to take sides ... or is owned and operated by political parties.
George Bush never used the words "Mission Accomplished" on his visit to the returning aircraft carrier.

The banner you're referring to was put up by the ship's crew to celebrate the fact that their mission had been accomplished. Since liberals have been lying about that banner for so many years, it's no surprise that some people actually believe Bush declared that the US's Iraq mission was accomplished that day. He did no such thing.

The only side the military has sworn to take is that of the US Constitution:
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I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.
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In the process of allowing movie people in to get details on the bin laden raid, they outed the identities of SEAL 6. Coincidentally {maybe} the bulk of the team was shot down shortly thereafter.
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Parents of SEAL Team Six member say unit endangered by Obama administration statements
Identifying the Special Operations Force behind the Usama bin Laden raid amounted to placing a target on the back of the team members as well as their families, according to the parents of Aaron Vaughn, a member of SEAL Team Six who was killed in Afghanistan in 2011.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...#ixzz2ApBYc02i
Then we have the two guys that were in a position to help the trapped team in Benghazi
...both removed by the Obama administration after apparently trying to act even though the administration elected not to send relief.
[1]General Carter Ham, a 4 star, was abruptly removed from AFRICOM... and the papers today said he just retired.

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General Carter F. Ham, the AFRICOM Combatant Commander at the center of the Benghazi-gate controversy, is leaving the Army.
[2]The Rear Admiral in charge of a task force off the coast of Libya was also removed from command while at sea.
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The fact that Panetta, a step below the president and an Obama appointee, is on record NOT wanting to send men in lends credence to the story that these men were trying to fulfill the military ethos on never leaving a man behind.

Obama is "unpopular" with the military like VD is unpopular with high school boys. Many vets are beginning to wonder aloud if he's the other side of the "all enemies foreign and domestic" their oath talks about.
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Obama is "unpopular" with the military like VD is unpopular with high school boys.
VD is no more popular in the military than it is in high school. I think that the same can be said about Obama (except with the gays who can now serve openly).

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Many vets are beginning to wonder aloud if he's the other side of the "all enemies foreign and domestic" their oath talks about.
This vet stopped wondering about four years ago.
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In the process of allowing movie people in to get details on the bin laden raid, they outed the identities of SEAL 6. Coincidentally {maybe} the bulk of the team was shot down shortly thereafter.

Then we have the two guys that were in a position to help the trapped team in Benghazi
Good lord Rob, give the guy a break for goodness sakes.

The way you're going, next thing you'll be saying is that he used to hang around with Anti-American Muslim friends!!!
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The way you're going, next thing you'll be saying is that he used to hang around with Anti-American Muslim friends!!!
While they're not Muslim, Weather Underground founder, terrorist Bill Ayers and his wife, Bernadine Dohrn, are certainly anti-American.

Ayers is rumored/reprted to have ghost-written Obama's autobiography. Obama kicked off his political career in their Chicago home.
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The list of his relationships with crooks, anti-americans, marxists, etc is pretty long. Ayers was on the FBI most wanted list and Daddy's money got him a get outta jail free card. He's still anti-American, but he now has a place inside the system from which to work.

If the media hadnt had such a boner to elect the first black president he'd have been jettisoned for any one of several such relationships.
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“Seal Team Six: The Raid on Osama Bin Laden,”

to bad the above crew of [removed] miss the point of the thread - the successful apprehension of OBL by the Obama Administration.



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"Mission Accomplished:" Navy suggested it, White House made it, both sides say

White House spokesman Scott McClellan told CNN that in preparing for the speech, Navy officials on the carrier told Bush aides they wanted a "Mission Accomplished" banner, and the White House agreed to create it.

"We took care of the production of it," McClellan said. "We have people to do those things. But the Navy actually put it up."

interesting the military involved in the theatrics at all .... must be something the [removed] find inwardly appealing when devoted to a cause of their own making.
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As I said, the carrier's crew was celebrating that their mission was accomplished. Bush never used the words "mission accomplished" in any of his comments aboard the ship.
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to bad the above crew of henchmen miss the point of the thread - the successful apprehension of OBL by the Obama Administration.
Re-read the thread title. You're mistaken about the nature of the thread.

And you might wanna drop the "henchmen" theme. Call it a hunch.
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the nature of the thread is the successful apprehension of OBL by the Obama Administration.

it is to bad the fact is distasteful for a certain people but the facts remain a lesson in History.
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The nature of the thread is contained in the title: "Combat Vets To Run Anti-Obama Ad".

I realize you think that suggests the thread is about the glories of Obama, but a normal person might surmise it is about why those who put their life on the line to safeguard our freedom detest the guy.
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to bad the above crew of [removed] miss the point of the thread - the successful apprehension of OBL by the Obama Administration.

interesting the military involved in the theatrics at all .... must be something the [removed] find inwardly appealing when devoted to a cause of their own making.
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to bad the above crew of [removed] miss the point of the thread - the successful apprehension of OBL by the Obama Administration.
A "successful apprehension" results in the capture (not the death) of the person being apprehended.

Had the identical action been taken by the Bush administration with an identical result, there's no doubt in my mind whatsoever that you'd be among the first calling for his war crimes trial for violating Pakistan's national sovereignty and assassinating OBL.
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