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Old 11-14-2012, 12:39 PM
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Walmart-Contracted Warehouse Workers Strike Ahead Of Black Friday

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Two dozen workers at a Walmart-contracted warehouse in Southern California walked off the job Wednesday morning, calling on the companies that benefit from their work to improve conditions at the facility and to end what workers describe as retaliation for speaking out.

The walkout is part of a broader strike expected to hit the Walmart supply chain in the run-up to the holiday shopping season, as workers and labor activists try to pressure the world's largest retailer into raising standards in both its stores and its contracted warehouses. Associates at Walmart stores have threatened to strike on Black Friday, potentially disrupting the megaretailer's plans for what is traditionally the biggest shopping day of the year.

The workers striking in Southern California are employed by a temporary labor agency called Warestaff, which contracts with a warehouse run by the logistics company NFI, where workers have previously walked out. Although none of the workers are employed directly by Walmart, the goods that pass through the NFI facility are destined for Walmart stores throughout the U.S.

David Garcia was among the workers who walked off the job Wednesday. He's worked at the NFI facility for a year as a temp and earns $8 an hour without benefits. He's employed as a "lumper" -- someone who loads and unloads containers on the warehouse docks. He typically gets around 30 hours per week, he said.

"I was promised a 90-day probation period when I started," Garcia told HuffPost. "It's been a year and they're not talking about me being hired [full-time], or getting any benefits, no raises, not even a promotion for me to start driving a forklift. I've got five kids and a wife to support and that’s really impossible with $8 dollars an hour."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2130389.html

That's how they builded their fortune, pay low as much as possible. The wealth of the Walton family is equivalent to 90 millions Americans wealth, but no they can't pay more than $8.00 an hour...in California where the cost of living is one of the highest in the country!
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Old 11-14-2012, 01:18 PM
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Perhaps he should consider another job.
 
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If there is a better job out there for him he should take it. If not he shut up and work if he wants a job. I don't imagine they will have a hard time filling the positions.
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I don't imagine they will have a hard time filling the positions.
Well, they can always exploit people looking for a job, the job market is so destoyed that each opening generate hundreds of candidates.

He was promised a 90-day probation period, but the company can say whatever they want, at the end it doesn't matter.

These days it is very common that a company lie to you, cheat you, ask you to do work that it isn't in your contract, etc from all kind of corporations.

That's why Unions are made for...conforming to the law or to rules.
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I think you and I view the world through different colored glasses.

I have worked for $5.00 per day, minimum wage and and 50K a year back when that was some real money. Your time is worth what you can sell it for; no more and no less. If you can find a better job you usually should take it. If you can't you do what you need to keep the wolf away from the door. If one job doesn't give you enough money the you should get two or more.

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I think you and I view the world through different colored glasses.
Perhaps that's why, I don't use colored glasses, I can see very clearly.

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I have worked for $5.00 per day, minimum wage and and 50K a year back when that was some real money. Your time is worth what you can sell it for; no more and no less. If you can find a better job you usually should take it. If you can't you do what you need to keep the wolf away from the door. If one job doesn't give you enough money the you should get two or more.
That's your way of thinking not mine.

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There are a few winners and a lot of modern slaves.
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My friend and I do consider you a friend, we politely agreed to disagree. Now we can move on to happier topics.
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My friend and I do consider you a friend, we politely agreed to disagree. Now we can move on to happier topics.
Friends have disagrements, it doen't remove the individual qualities.

Just to make my point, please read this article it will explain in details where we are at. We can still disagree and be friend

Wages in America:
The Rich Get Richer and the Rest Get Less

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The article has elements of the truth. Those things did happen. Blaming them on the president is a distortion. The real truth is that the American worker was sold into poverty by the duly elected congress of the US when the NAFTA act and other like it were passed.

There are 536 people guilty of this crime! That's the house senate and president.

We no longer have independent control of our own destiny. It is a done deal and nothing is likely to change it. Learn to live with and move on.
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If there is a better job out there for him he should take it. If not he shut up and work if he wants a job. I don't imagine they will have a hard time filling the positions.
That's one way of looking at things.
So, he leaves that job out of necessity and the situation doesn't change at that facility for the next guy.

Or... He can try to use whatever leverage he may have to try to make the job situation there a little better for himself and/or the next guy when he leaves.
It may blow up in his face or it may not. Can either of you really blame him for staying and trying?
 
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The article has elements of the truth. Those things did happen. Blaming them on the president is a distortion. The real truth is that the American worker was sold into poverty by the duly elected congress of the US when the NAFTA act and other like it were passed.

There are 536 people guilty of this crime! That's the house senate and president.

We no longer have independent control of our own destiny. It is a done deal and nothing is likely to change it. Learn to live with and move on.
Well, I agree with you.

There is distorsion when lobbyists and special interests contribute to the political elections and laws creation.

I don't think I will ever live with it and move on, that's the easy way and it is a giveaway to the opposition.

My ancestors fought for many social benefits/wages in 1936, they were shot at in protests by the French army, a lot of blood spill on the streets in Paris for these benefits/wages we have now. So when some people talk about this subject and all the political implications, it just makes me think that giving up isn't the solution.
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I always asked to myself how to get a more comprehensive labor wages and benefits policy without necessary falling into radicalism.

I will be glad to hear any opinion on this.
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Internal Walmart Document Reveals Policy Of Paying Poverty Wages

Walmart's Internal Compensation Documents Reveal Systematic Limit On Advancement

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Two years ago, when she started working at the deli counter of a Walmart in Illinois, Lisa hoped that her job would amount to the beginning of a career, one that would pay enough to cover her bills and enable her to stay current on her student loan debt.

But despite one raise since, Lisa, who asked that only her first name be used, now earns just $9.10 an hour, or about $13,000 a year on part-time hours. Seven months pregnant, she recently filed for bankruptcy. With no alternatives at hand, Walmart now seems like a dead-end to poverty, she says.

"I don’t have underwear without holes in them," she said. "Everyone at work wears T-shirts that are threadbare. I have just enough to eat and get gas to make it to work for the next two weeks."

Lisa's experience sheds light on why a group claiming to represent tens of thousands of Walmart workers nationwide is planning strikes and other labor actions at as many as 1,000 stores next week on Black Friday, the biggest shopping day of the year. The actions are intended to protest what the group says are meager wages.

The company website declares that "a job at Walmart opens the door to a better life" and "the chance to grow and build a career." But interviews with 31 hourly workers and one former store manager reveal lives beset by paychecks too small to handle the bills, difficult to manage part-time schedules with hours subject to constant change, and little reason to hope for career advancement. Citing fear of losing their jobs, most spoke on the condition of anonymity.

The testimonials of these workers are confirmed by Walmart’s official compensation policy, an internal company document obtained by The Huffington Post, titled the "Field Non-Exempt Associate Pay Plan Fiscal Year 2013." The plan details a rigid pay structure for hourly employees that makes it difficult for most to rise much beyond poverty-level wages.

Low-level workers typically start near minimum wage, and have the potential to earn raises of 20 to 40 cents an hour through incremental promotions. Flawless performance merits a 60 cent raise per year under the policy, regardless of how much time an employee has worked for the company. [Click here to read the full pay policy] As a result, a "solid performer" who starts at Walmart as a cart pusher making $8 an hour and receives one promotion, about the average rate, can expect to make $10.60 after working at the company for 6 year.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2145086.html

I am wondering what can do with $10 bucks an hour today. I fell sorry for the people that cannot find a better pay job regarding the trend corporate policy all over the country, but they are still investing hundreds of million dollars in other operations.

The problem is they are going to level nationally all the wages to the minimum to make more profits, pay CEO thousands of time a worker wage, bonuses for excutive, stocks market option, and other incentives/benefits.

After they are going to complaint that taxes are too high. Perhaps it is the reason why the food stamps and other wellfare programs are explosing. I am not even talking about all the income tax and local tax revenues that are skrinking and put stress on all states.
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Wal-Mart warns workers on Black Friday strike

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As Wal-Mart workers prepare to stage a walkout on Black Friday, the world's largest store is fighting back.

Wal-Mart (WMT, Fortune 500) has filed a complaint with a federal agency accusing one of the largest labor unions in the country of unlawfully organizing picket lines, in-store "flash mobs" and other demonstrations in the past six months.

In its complaint Thursday, Wal-Mart said the United Food and Commercial Workers Union and its subsidiary known as OURWalmart is trying to force the store into collective bargaining even though it is not the official union for Wal-Mart's employees. The UFCW represents over a million meat packers and food industry workers.

The complaint comes just days before Wal-Mart workers' plan to stage nationwide walkouts on Black Friday, arguably the biggest holiday shopping day for any U.S. store. Union-backed groups OUR Walmart and Making Change at Wal-Mart, along with a watchdog group Corporate Action Network are calling on the country's largest employer to end what they call retaliation against employees who speak out for better pay, fair schedules and affordable health care.

The planned walkouts build on an October strike that started at a Wal-Mart in Los Angeles and spread to stores in 12 other cities. More than 100 workers joined in the October actions.

Wal-Mart spokesman David Tovar pointed out in a statement that the number of workers participating in the walkout is a "very small minority" of its 1.3 million workforce. Tovar said that Black Friday is like the "Superbowl" for retailers and that Wal-Mart is ready.

"If [the store employees] are scheduled to work, we expect them to show up and do their job. If they don't, depending on the circumstances, there could be consequences," said Tovar.

In a letter to UFCW's general council sent on Friday, Wal-Mart said the workers' ongoing actions violate the National Labor Relations Act, which prohibits picketing for any period over 30 days without filing a representation petition. The retailer said the actions have disrupted business.

"The UFCW has orchestrated numerous pickets, mass demonstrations, flash mobs and other confrontational activities both inside and outside Wal-Mart facilities in support of its bargaining and recognition demands," wrote Wal-Mart lawyer Steven Wheeless. "Now, with the busiest shopping season of the year just days away, the UFCW is openly orchestrating and promoting attempted mass disruptions of Wal-Mart's customer shopping experience."
http://money.cnn.com/2012/11/18/news...-black-friday/

In your opinion what would be the walmart customer experience?
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Why are we standing up to live better?

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I guess it is interesting to remind this documentary...

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