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Old 12-29-2012, 12:25 PM
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The Politics of Fear

I believe things are going to get better. There are people wants to convince people that we should fear the future, that our debt will cause the collapse of civilization as we know it, and much more. They are absolutely wrong, but as they try to convince people to fear, it creates more problems than it solves in our society.

What we cannot do as individuals is make our politicians stop fear mongering overnight, but we don't have to subscribe to their beliefs, because they are wrong!

Some reasons to be confident in the future (share more!):
  1. Starvation and hunger have been steadily decreasing as a result of advanced farming techniques.
  2. Our ability to fight off diseases like aids and hepatitus has improved dramatically.
  3. A third of people born today are likely to live to be 100
  4. Population growth is starting to stabilize in some parts of the world
  5. The internet is like a nervous system for our world allowing everyone to become educated and growth of people online is not slowing.
  6. Fewer people are dying in wars than in previous generations, and this has been a steady downward trend.
  7. People in poor countries are seeing their lives improve, and that is great for people in more wealthy countries, as there are more productive people in the World
  8. Advances in biotechnology will be a defining trend in the next 10 years, that will further allow us to improve the lives of people around the world.

Don't believe the hype! It just slows down the inevitable amazing world. Respond to fear with excitement that you are part of a time when the world became connected by this thing called the internet and our overall intelligence and ability to improve accelerated.

Sure, there are things like recessions, but even this last one did not compare to those of the past, and the fear mongering would be a leading cause of why it happened in the first place, and why it has taken time to solve it.

Stop helping to spread fear. As you believe in a wonderful world, that is more peaceful and ever improving, you will be part of something is dear to your heart and you will be a happier person in general. Why wouldn't you want to be happier?

Think about it...
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Old 12-30-2012, 09:10 AM
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What we cannot do as individuals is make our politicians stop fear mongering overnight, but we don't have to subscribe to their beliefs, because they are wrong!

what motivates politicians is not always fathomable ... the fishers in society often cause unforeseen consequences.
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Old 12-30-2012, 09:38 AM
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It is a technique that is used worldwide and is always very effective.

If a government wants to do something and it needs the public backing, then it uses the fear tactic. For example, going to war so as to stop them using WMD's. The damned things didn't exist but tell society that they do and you can coax them into whatever you want.

There is a department within government where spin-doctors work and it is their job to make sure society is steered as per government requirements.

Make people fear a situation and you control the people.
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Old 12-30-2012, 09:49 AM
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David: Nice post. You addressed everything except the "why".

G10 in his polite manner hinted at it.

I am just going to come right out and say it. They, (the government and the politicos) do it because it empowers them. You now need big government to protect from all those evils out there.
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The first 20 or so mins may drag but they set the tone for what comes after and how FEAR was ON PURPOSELY created -

Trust me on this, it is worth a watch and is an eye opener.
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I have known this for years. The government wants you dependent on them. Then they control the masses! Glad people are starting to wake up to this fact. Good post hopefully it will wake some people up. Fear is a great motivator and the government knows this.
 
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I have known this for years. The government wants you dependent on them. Then they control the masses! Glad people are starting to wake up to this fact. Good post hopefully it will wake some people up. Fear is a great motivator and the government knows this.
The way you stated this seems to allude to the idea that we should fear the government. If that is the case, I don't agree with that at all. We should open our eyes and see that PEOPLE involved in government or lobbying government or spreading fear in the news are causing the problem.

So our response can be to let them know that we don't elect people out of fear. So long as we elect people out of fear, we put in place those people who use fear to manipulate us.

Our government could be completely different, more effective and promoting peace and prosperity IF we chose to elect those people who promote peace and prosperity for all.
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Our government could be completely different, more effective and promoting peace and prosperity IF we chose to elect those people who promote peace and prosperity for all.
Maybe in an imaginary world
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Maybe in an imaginary world
We must first imagine success. This is one of the best ways to reach success.
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We must first imagine success. This is one of the best ways to reach success.
There is no success without politics

Perhaps you should watch this documentary

The Dangerous Servant A Discourse on Government

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Fear in small doses can be a necessity in a political environment....

When I announced to the county commission that crime had decreased by 10%....
One commissioner wanted to cut my annual budget....

Yet on another occasion, when I sought additional funding for my vice unit to work pornography and drug cases, a group of ministers appeared to support the increase.....

Fear of allowing bad influences to spread through the community...
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Management 101: almost all people are motivated by a desire to gain or a fear of loss.
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Most important is the realization of when fears is being used for propaganda, when facts are obscured. We have to understand the "politics of fear" or else we become its victims. Obviously, there have been some terrible dictators that used fear to scare people into complying with their egregious plans. While we are not anywhere near that precipice, it is still quite obvious that fear has been continually used to bring about changes that caused damage.

Among the worst damage is when people are so scared that they are getting sick, having mental illness, and being hateful to their fellow Americans. Fear that is used to create hate and disharmony is the worst kind, and I hope you will see that this is still in our society. Fear itself, even if based on false assumptions, can destroy financial markets.

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There are people who are wise enough to see it for what it is and not fall victim to being taught to hate people, to easily be angered by people who disagree, and to work toward that more perfect union that is more peaceful and full of hope for future generations.
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And this is even more scary! And we keep voting them in. I don't really understand this. The people have lost their teeth thru apathy. If 1 in 3 don't like their reps why keep voting them in? Because it is too much trouble to research the other guy on the ballot. I will have to admit the candiates they have been putting up for vote arn't the greatest choices. Even in some districts there is only one candiate running, nobody bothers to run against them. And I would say that the political mind set is it is a good job to get. You get all the goodies and prestige. Look at some of the politicans that have been corrupted think they were there "for the People" ? Look at the politicans that have left and gone to very lucrative jobs? Think there is some pocket stuffing and promises going on? The conspiracy theorists arn't so far off anymore unfortunately.

America will never be destroyed from the ouside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves."


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I am not sure if this is the right thread to put this in but if it isn't some mod can put it in the right one. Personally I hope I don't live to see this happen. But it sounds like it has been in the works for along time. Little by little they chip away at it.




 
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