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Old 03-29-2013, 01:07 PM
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Old 03-29-2013, 01:35 PM
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OK, but how did God get there?
What if he has always been?

On a human level, that is bloody hard to understand because there is a beginning and an end to everything. Time moves through everything, causes decay and ultimately death.

Science claims that time can not escape from the density within a black hole. The pull is so strong that even time itself is seen to stand still within the event horizon. Science also says that if you were to travel towards space at the speed of light and then back to earth at the same speed, your time would be different to everyone around you, and yet you've lived for the same few minutes as everyone else.

The only reason I said what i did is because mans concept of time is that it passes through everything. Everything ages, but hypothetically speaking, what if something could live outside of time.

Ok, I am not answering where he came from because what if he has always been?.. I know, it's hard for me to get my head around and I am not saying I believe that, it is just a possibility and one that I based when I read books like Stephen Hawking - Brief History of Time, and some others.
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The only reason I said what i did is because mans concept of time is that it passes through everything. Everything ages, but hypothetically speaking, what if something could live outside of time.

Ok, I am not answering where he came from because what if he has always been?.. I know, it's hard for me to get my head around and I am not saying I believe that, it is just a possibility and one that I based when I read books like Stephen Hawking - Brief History of Time, and some others.
I am glad that you are talking about Stephen Hawking, one of the most brilliant man of our time.

Here is an interesting video to watch

Carl Sagan, Stephen Hawking and Arthur C. Clarke - God, The Universe and Everything else.

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I haven't watched the video NE as Carl Sagan is somebody that I have to watch the entirety of with his videos and it's nearly 4am. However I do enjoy his general take on God.
 
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I haven't watched the video NE as Carl Sagan is somebody that I have to watch the entirety of with his videos and it's nearly 4am. However I do enjoy his general take on God.
When you think about it, science can answer what the scientists can comprehend. There are many things today unanswered, scientists cannot answer some questions, religions cannot answer some questions and science answered many religious beliefs but not all.

There are also all the artifacts unexplained, and there are no answers about how and why they were builded.

So, we are still looking for the unanswered questions, perhaps it will take centuries or milleniums to get them, who knows.

Here is a short video about Carl Sagan about God.

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This video will open your mind. This is how some scientists are working to get some answers.

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If God is omnipotent and knows what we will do before he created us, how can we have free will?
He probably knew Muddy would create this thread and did nothing to stop him
 
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If God is omnipotent and knows what we will do before he created us, how can we have free will?
He probably knew Muddy would create this thread and did nothing to stop him

Furthering my theory that he just created us for his entertainment. But why would a perfect and omnipotent being need entertainment?


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Furthering my theory that he just created us for his entertainment. But why would a perfect and omnipotent being need entertainment?
I guess it's boring being perfect, so you have to spice it up with some foolish creatures
 
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Now that's just a coincidence. Seriously

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the Everlasting - Garden is forever changing - species come and go - mankind included.
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I guess it's boring being perfect, so you have to spice it up with some foolish creatures
If god can get bored, he is not perfect.
 
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