Webmaster Forum

Go Back   Webmaster Forum > The Webmaster Forums > Forum Lobby > Controversial Social Issues

Controversial Social Issues Discussions concerning controversial social issues. Topics include politics, religion, culture, social and economic issues, etc. Respect required at all times.


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Share |
  #21 (permalink)  
Old 08-02-2013, 04:03 AM
G10's Avatar
G10 G10 is offline
Super Moderator
Latest Blog:
None

 
Join Date: 05-10-04
Location: UK - Cheshire
Posts: 11,762
iTrader: 5 / 100%
@ Scripty & JS - Just because someone has a low IQ and not the most intelligent person, this does not mean that they are disabled. I never mentioned disabled, and secondly, in the UK, the dole won't make up the difference just because someone has isn't that smart.

@ thedarklord23 - You are missing the point. The cost of living in third world countries is considerably less so it goes without saying that the wages will be less also.
__________________
Click Here for Chester Carpet Cleaners
Sequential Labeling - Sticker and Decal Printers
 
Reply With Quote

Advertisement

Advertisement

  #22 (permalink)  
Old 08-02-2013, 04:35 AM
Contributing Member
 
Join Date: 08-01-13
Location: Islamabad, Pakistan
Posts: 56
iTrader: 0 / 0%
But still their demand is too high, because you can easily live in comfort at $2000/month in USA.
 
Reply With Quote
  #23 (permalink)  
Old 08-02-2013, 04:48 AM
John Scott's Avatar
Individualist
 
Join Date: 09-27-03
Location: Wherever I want.
Posts: 28,046
iTrader: 4 / 100%
Quote:
Scripty & JS - Just because someone has a low IQ and not the most intelligent person, this does not mean that they are disabled. I never mentioned disabled, and secondly, in the UK, the dole won't make up the difference just because someone has isn't that smart.
If he isn't learning disabled, then he ought to be able to learn any number of trades. There are so many I can't even begin to name them.
__________________
Japan Car Auction
 
Reply With Quote
  #24 (permalink)  
Old 08-02-2013, 05:30 AM
ScriptMan's Avatar
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: 02-10-07
Location: Central Kentucky
Posts: 13,127
iTrader: 4 / 100%
Quote:
Originally Posted by thedarklord123 View Post
Yeah. Calculations : If they work 8 hours :

8 * 7.5 = $60/day

60*30 = $1800/month

In 3rd world countries , thats quite an amount but there, I dont know
Trust me it isn't much money and how far it will go depends on the part of the country. The more rural the area the farther it will go.
__________________
I do not put ads or pop-ups in my posts and I have no control of what shows there. I do not endorse any product displayed in my post.
Scriptman's Playhouse || Ramblings from an old man
 
Reply With Quote
  #25 (permalink)  
Old 08-02-2013, 06:05 AM
G10's Avatar
G10 G10 is offline
Super Moderator
Latest Blog:
None

 
Join Date: 05-10-04
Location: UK - Cheshire
Posts: 11,762
iTrader: 5 / 100%
Quote:
Originally Posted by thedarklord123 View Post
Yeah. Calculations : If they work 8 hours :

8 * 7.5 = $60/day

60*30 = $1800/month

In 3rd world countries , thats quite an amount but there, I dont know
You're assuming that a business will give someone 30 days a month work. This isn't realistic.

Let's try the math using "real world" scenario..

8 * 7.5 = $60/day
60*22 = $1320/month - (average worker may do a 5 day week)

- $400 for insurance plan (if not offered by the company) = $1320 - $400 = $920

- Monthly food bill
- Mortgage
- Heating bills
- Electricity bill
- Water Rates
- Clothes - School uniform etc
- Car insurance and other car bills (repairs etc)

You won't be left with a hell of a lot to save for a rainy day.
__________________
Click Here for Chester Carpet Cleaners
Sequential Labeling - Sticker and Decal Printers
 
Reply With Quote
  #26 (permalink)  
Old 08-02-2013, 07:43 AM
Contributing Member
Latest Blog:
None

 
Join Date: 08-01-13
Location: Islamabad, Pakistan
Posts: 56
iTrader: 0 / 0%
As I don't know much about the Electricity Rates , Heating and grocery items, So I can't make a complete calculation.

If someone could provide the info, I would be thankful
 
Reply With Quote
  #27 (permalink)  
Old 08-02-2013, 12:29 PM
ScriptMan's Avatar
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: 02-10-07
Location: Central Kentucky
Posts: 13,127
iTrader: 4 / 100%
G10's numbers are close enough but here is the way we would figure it in the states.
7.50 per hour (Federal minimum is $7.25 but most places pay more)
40 ◊ maximum hours per week without overtime (very rare in minimum positions)
4.3 ◊ weeks per month on average
--------------------------
1,290 = gross monthly income
.90 ◊ FICA at 6.7% plus most places have a local income tax
--------------------------
1,161 =
. Federal and state income with holding really should be subtracted from this, but we wont.

It is impossible to say what rent and utilities would be as the costs vary so widely around the country. Here in Kentucky you could probably get a one room with bath apartment with most utilities paid for 5-600 per month.

A single person with no car could probably exist on that amount but there would not be anything left over and their would not be any health care insurance money.
__________________
I do not put ads or pop-ups in my posts and I have no control of what shows there. I do not endorse any product displayed in my post.
Scriptman's Playhouse || Ramblings from an old man
 
Reply With Quote
  #28 (permalink)  
Old 08-02-2013, 08:48 PM
Contributing Member
Latest Blog:
None

 
Join Date: 08-01-13
Location: Islamabad, Pakistan
Posts: 56
iTrader: 0 / 0%
So, I think that's the point,

Quote:
A single person with no car could probably exist on that amount
He has to survive until he finds something that he's capable of. Unless he plans to stay at a ****ty job forever
 
Reply With Quote
  #29 (permalink)  
Old 08-03-2013, 04:24 AM
G10's Avatar
G10 G10 is offline
Super Moderator
Latest Blog:
None

 
Join Date: 05-10-04
Location: UK - Cheshire
Posts: 11,762
iTrader: 5 / 100%
Quote:
Originally Posted by thedarklord123 View Post
He has to survive until he finds something that he's capable of. Unless he plans to stay at a ****ty job forever
This is too black and white.

We have to factor in the current economic climate and there are people leaving university with degrees that some end up being shelf stackers as they just want to work and the job market is pretty dire.

It's not that one chooses to remain in a low paid job, it is that some do look elsewhere whilst working but the right job has to come along.

Though the dream is that everybody can work their way up the ladder, this isn't true for everyone in this current climate. It's why we call it a recession.
__________________
Click Here for Chester Carpet Cleaners
Sequential Labeling - Sticker and Decal Printers
 
Reply With Quote
  #30 (permalink)  
Old 08-03-2013, 04:33 AM
G10's Avatar
G10 G10 is offline
Super Moderator
Latest Blog:
None

 
Join Date: 05-10-04
Location: UK - Cheshire
Posts: 11,762
iTrader: 5 / 100%
Quote:
Originally Posted by John Scott View Post
If he isn't learning disabled, then he ought to be able to learn any number of trades. There are so many I can't even begin to name them.
I hear you John and I do agree in part to this.

I am not sure of the de-facto for "learning disabled" but some people are slow mentally but they really try to contribute, we've all met these sort of people.

A lot of employers would rather employ a faster worker than someone that is slower mentally. I know as I have witnessed it within the corporate sector, and also within my fathers small delivery business many years back. We employed a very honest guy that worked hard (to his standards) but was a little slow mentally. Great man but my father had to employ someone a little faster and pay him a fraction more as it was his business and he could not afford NOT to support his own family (my father that is).

We all liked the guy but sadly had to let him go as he couldn't think on his feet fast enough.

In the real world, it is not the same as discussing it on a forum and if it were our own business, we may even think twice - Harsh but true.
__________________
Click Here for Chester Carpet Cleaners
Sequential Labeling - Sticker and Decal Printers
 
Reply With Quote
Go Back   Webmaster Forum > The Webmaster Forums > Forum Lobby > Controversial Social Issues

Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Do you like to eat fast food? DotComBum Forum Lobby 216 11-11-2013 11:30 PM
101M Get Food Aid from Federal Govít; Outnumber Full-Time Private Sector Workers Franc Tireur Controversial Social Issues 2 07-09-2013 09:45 AM
do u like fast food? lucky2009 Forum Lobby 88 07-30-2009 02:08 PM
Beijing Fast Food m42 Forum Lobby 10 06-10-2008 03:21 AM


V7N Network
Get exposure! V7N I Love Photography V7N SEO Blog V7N Directory


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:34 PM.
Powered by vBulletin
Copyright © 2000-2014 Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.
Copyright © 2003 - 2014 Escalate Media




Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 RC 2 ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.