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should be illegal
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should be legal for consenting adults
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08-29-2006, 03:31 PM
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#41 (permalink)
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Alot of good points for and against but I voted Illegal for moral reasons 
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08-31-2006, 11:13 AM
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#42 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Ferre
The question is what are the benefits for society when it is legal, and those are numerous, for one, the 'circuit' is in the open and laws and a control system can be made to protect higiene and everyone involved better than organised crime is doing in countries that prohibit it. prostitutes in countries that have legalized it are subject of regular medical checkups and that's more than what happens in the illegal circuit. Also so called 'female slave trading' which is going on is more easy to fight for law enforcement in countries with registered clubs and prostitutes.
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With on Ferre, had the same debate with a friend a month ago. Making it illegal based on "grounds of morality" is a head in the sand approach. Sure, maybe it "feels good" to make it illegal, "it's the right thing to do". The reality is that making it illegal causes so many real life problems that "it feels good / it's the RIGHT thing to do" ain't any sort of justification for it.
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08-31-2006, 11:40 AM
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#43 (permalink)
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I don't mean to come off like a square, I just think that prostitution is a sin. Like many other things. So I really can't stand up for it, even though I personally don't care what anybody does.
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08-31-2006, 12:39 PM
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#44 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by sitetutor
I don't mean to come off like a square, I just think that prostitution is a sin. Like many other things. So I really can't stand up for it, even though I personally don't care what anybody does.
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There's no doubt it's a sin...my only problem is the government regulating it by law. God Himself gave us free will. People choose right or wrong themselves.
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08-31-2006, 01:37 PM
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#45 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by South
God Himself gave us free will.
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Very good point. I guess it's a similar discussion like whether abortion should be legal or not.
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08-31-2006, 02:23 PM
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#46 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by South
There's no doubt it's a sin...my only problem is the government regulating it by law. God Himself gave us free will. People choose right or wrong themselves.
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Huh? Very good point.......
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08-31-2006, 03:50 PM
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#47 (permalink)
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legal - but you must be licensed to perform the service(s).
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08-31-2006, 04:00 PM
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Im of the opinion that its my body and I will do damn well as I please with it... If people want to sell themselves then let them, however as someone pointed out earlier it should be mae a little more discreet. None of this cars pulling up etc, designated areas much like canabis in Amsterdam.
And no im not a prostitute!
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08-31-2006, 04:09 PM
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#49 (permalink)
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I think it's all johns' fault.
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Last edited by Atom; 08-31-2006 at 04:14 PM..
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08-31-2006, 04:14 PM
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Potato Monster
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Agreed 
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08-31-2006, 04:18 PM
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lol
I think that government control in this area could be an asset to society, but not by having it illegal.
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08-31-2006, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by sitetutor
Very good point. I guess it's a similar discussion like whether abortion should be legal or not.
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Hookers perform a service with a conseting adult. Nobody is murdered. How is that like abortion?
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08-31-2006, 05:13 PM
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Incidently, can someone explain to me the difference between a hooker and a call girl.. Call girls are legal even though many offer a similar service... Why is 1 okay and the other not?
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08-31-2006, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Immo
Incidently, can someone explain to me the difference between a hooker and a call girl.. Call girls are legal even though many offer a similar service... Why is 1 okay and the other not?
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Better lookin' and they cost more. Just another way the MAN is keeping us poor folk down.
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09-01-2006, 07:58 AM
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call girl has a business license or works for someone who does... and is offically there for sex. hookers are pimped out for sex and not much more.
my 
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09-01-2006, 09:21 PM
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I've never understood the "sting" operations you see portrayed on television here in the U.S. that go after the "johns" ...
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09-01-2006, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by wrmineo
I've never understood the "sting" operations you see portrayed on television here in the U.S. that go after the "johns" ...
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There is a lot of that in Las Vegas. My neighbor got nabbed for that, when I lived in Las Vegas. He propositioned a hooker who happened to be a cop. They made him pay a fine and let him go.
I think they just treat it like a business. Las Vegas police dept makes mad money from those stings. Business, nothing more.
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09-02-2006, 12:49 PM
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Having been to Amsterdam, you guys wouldn't believe how out in the open it's there. The red light distrct is one big shopping center with hookers standing in the windows and guys coming in and out of those places.
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09-03-2006, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by sitetutor
Having been to Amsterdam, you guys wouldn't believe how out in the open it's there. The red light distrct is one big shopping center with hookers standing in the windows and guys coming in and out of those places.
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The good thing about that though, using Amsterdam as an example, is that it's limited to a district - easily avoided for those who don't want to see it. The other thing, as previously pointed out, is that there are strict (health) regulations. Finally, if it were an "underground" business, if a customer gets out of hand, abuses the service provider, etc. the likeliness of the crime getting reported is nearly nil ... when it's an open, legal service customers know they can be held accountable mitigating violence or other crimes; or at least making them accountable.
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09-03-2006, 11:22 AM
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#60 (permalink)
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I voted legal for the Amsterdam example. Its better controlled as in health but also it seems to have better security for the women (although I have no stats to back that up).
If you dont like it then you have no reason to wander into a red light destrict.
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