Prostitution

[John Scott]

Legislating morality is the steepest of all slippery slopes, IMO.

[KenMendonca]

I'm a happy person.

Grins are a lot more sinister. ------^

[SA007]

Should Be Illegal.....

[KenMendonca]

It was around and the bible does not always speak negativly about it, but if you honestly believe, and I'm not here to try to convince you otherwise, that there is nothing wrong with it. That IS a problem imho.

I'm certainly not going to claim to be pure or anything. I like boobies as much as the next guy.

To be honest, it probably wouldn't be as big as it is if not for ****** and its brothers.

[John Scott]

The bible is not negative at all about prostitution.

The Bible doesn't hold either adultery or fornication in high esteem, and prositution can be somewhat fornicating-erous.

[WhatcomsFinest]

Originally Posted by John Scott

LOL

I think that's spelled "john", no?

lol oh you two are so funny

Originally Posted by KenMendonca

It's a slippery slope to legalize these things. I don't want to sound all religious right here, but moral decay is a real thing and it eventually leads to the fall of a civilazation. No way around it.

Eventually someone goes to far and the crowd goes along with it and it starts a chain reaction that can't be stopped.

I agree with you fully here Ken, very sad really.

Originally Posted by Ferre

The bible is not negative at all about prostitution. Rahab "the harlot" was praised in Hebrews 11:31 and Jos 6:17 as an example of faith. Rahab was praised because she helped Israelite spies whom she hid and helped escape but the mention of her as "the harlot" wasn't a negative reference .

In Hosea 1:3, God commanded Hosea to marry a prostitute named Gomez. In Hosea 4:15, God said he would not punish the daughters of Israel when they turned to prostitution.

Ferre you really do not know the Bible at all, you may have it on your desk and be able to take verses out of context but you do not know the Bible. Here is a few passages in regards to prostitution and the Bible:
http://www.gotquestions.org/prostitution.html

I do however have to say that I agree with you somewhat here:

Originally Posted by Ferre

fact is that prostitution is as old as the world. Fact is that it being 'illegal' does not in the slightest reduces the amount of prostitutes or their clients. Fact is that people do it anyway.

Fact is that by making it "illegal" this only creates busyness opportunities for criminals/maffia-like organisations.

Originally Posted by Atom

Actually, it seems to me that moral decay has suddenly accelerated with the dawn of digital communication, basically starting with the industrial revolution .. mid 19th century.

I think you really are on to something here Atom

Originally Posted by KenMendonca

I like boobies as much as the next guy.

[kristeejo]

Originally Posted by WhatcomsFinest

lol oh you two are so funny


I agree with you fully here Ken, very sad really.



Ferre you really do not know the Bible at all, you may have it on your desk and be able to take verses out of context but you do not know the Bible. Here is a few passages in regards to prostitution and the Bible:
http://www.gotquestions.org/prostitution.html

I do however have to say that I agree with you somewhat here:




I think you really are on to something here Atom

You, my dear, are the harlot of quoting.

[WhatcomsFinest]

Originally Posted by kristeejo

You, my dear, are the harlot of quoting.

Yes well what can I say, it's my sick little way of catching up

Besides once you start I find it really hard to quit

"just for today I will not quote"

[Ferre]

Still my question is unanswered;

What is more "moral", creating a criminal circuit or making laws to take control and reduce harm as much as possible?

(And this goes not only for prostitution.)

[Katherine Stevenson]

Originally Posted by John Scott

The Bible doesn't hold either adultery or fornication in high esteem, and prositution can be somewhat fornicating-erous.

I agree with You. The prostituition was everywhere and in all times in the past, but the names of it were different and there were several different forms of it...even in Bible...but the sense was and is the one: to pay woman for her body.To make it legal or to leave illegal will not help to make it disappear,and it will not miimalize the risk to catch "french caugh" or something like that.But the problem of using girls and young women as sex slaves (You know they must do it for the one piece of bread and have 12-16 clients a day) is VERY actual today.....

[KenMendonca]

With great power comes great responsibility.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

The reason even democratic governments sometimes have to legislate morality is the same reason Dancing with the Stars is a hit TV show.

People are stupid.

[Mrblogs]

The reason I went "legal".. is not because I think prostitution is a wonderful staple of our modern day society (lol), but rather that the people who end up selling themselves to get money to survive, need resources and support in place to help them get out of such a vicious circle.

It is probably true that most "adult" prostitutes start out in their early adolescence, selling their bodies on the street to get enough money to buy food and have shelter. Such people need all the help they can get, to get out of such a thing.

[Mrblogs]

Originally Posted by John Scott

If something is wrong, it should be illegal. So what if people get hurt doing it. They shouldn't be doing wrong things to begin with.

Making something illegal does not stop it happening. And prostitution is more of a gray area than many other things that can be classed as wrong. There are many people forced into it, who have no other choice or knowledge of an alternative lifestyle, are we simply to abandon these people as "wrong" and hope to just care for those in society who "are good" (whatever that subjective term means).

People get hurt robbing mini marts, but I'm not going to legalize it just to make it safer to rob mini marts.

Robbing a mini mart is a single descision or choice. Some people may do so because if they don't their children will die of starvation/thirst (though it does seem unlikely, nowadays as long as they have approrpiate support systems in place). However, comparing theft to prostituion is like comparing apples and oranges.

[Ferre]

Polls like this show about the same result everywhere and it's funny how in *some* societies that claims to be democratic a 70+% majority doesn't matter for *certain* politicians who feel the need to moralize trough prohibition.

I think that making prostitution illegal is used as a cash-cow for governments, despite they know damn well it causes more misery and damage to society by making things illegal.

[KenMendonca]

Chuck Klosterman said, and I agree, that the phrase, comparing apples to oranges is used incorrectly. Are you trying to say that prostitution and robbery are not all that different? Cause look at apples and oranges, they have a lot in common. Both fruits, edible, roundish in shape, weigh about the same, about the same size. If you're trying to say two things are totally different then you should say something along the lines of, it's like comparing apples to baby wolverines or something like that.

She's talking about the 99.9% number you used.

[John Scott]

However, comparing theft to prostituion is like comparing apples and oranges.

Because prostitution is not "wrong". There are no victims.

[John Scott]

Making something illegal does not stop it happening.

Using that logic, we should make murder legal because we all know how dangerous that is.

[Mrblogs]

There are victims of prostitution.. those who are dragged into its culture, kidnapped and taken from their families, or forced to sell themselves as there is no other means of commerce available to them.

[JuggoPop]

Originally Posted by Mrblogs

There are victims of prostitution.. those who are dragged into its culture, kidnapped and taken from their families, or forced to sell themselves as there is no other means of commerce available to them.

legal prostitution would require the person to be licensed with the governement...
so i don't think being kidnapped and dragged in would happen as much as it does currently.
You can't kidnap a person a take them to a government office to be licensed for prostitution, just wouldn't happen.

Sure, there would still be illegal prostitution...
but why would a "john" want to visit a kidnapped crack whore when he could go do a prefessional disease free establishment?

[John Scott]

There are victims of prostitution.. those who are dragged into its culture, kidnapped and taken from their families, or forced to sell themselves as there is no other means of commerce available to them.

That isn't prostitution, that's rape. I'm talking about prostitution, in America, where 99.9% of the girls are willing and eager.