Prostitution - Page 8

John Scott · 09-15-2006, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by kristeejo

phoney statistics make me roll my eyes

What is phoney?

JuggoPop · 09-15-2006, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Mrblogs

There are victims of prostitution.. those who are dragged into its culture, kidnapped and taken from their families, or forced to sell themselves as there is no other means of commerce available to them.

legal prostitution would require the person to be licensed with the governement...
so i don't think being kidnapped and dragged in would happen as much as it does currently.
You can't kidnap a person a take them to a government office to be licensed for prostitution, just wouldn't happen.

Sure, there would still be illegal prostitution...
but why would a "john" want to visit a kidnapped crack whore when he could go do a prefessional disease free establishment?

kristeejo · 09-15-2006, 07:34 AM

You have no idea of how many of american prostitutes and "ready and willing." I'd venture to say 97.897% of american prostitutes are supporting a drug habit.

KenMendonca · 09-15-2006, 07:39 AM

Chuck Klosterman said, and I agree, that the phrase, comparing apples to oranges is used incorrectly. Are you trying to say that prostitution and robbery are not all that different? Cause look at apples and oranges, they have a lot in common. Both fruits, edible, roundish in shape, weigh about the same, about the same size. If you're trying to say two things are totally different then you should say something along the lines of, it's like comparing apples to baby wolverines or something like that.

She's talking about the 99.9% number you used.

John Scott · 09-15-2006, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by kristeejo

You have no idea of how many of american prostitutes and "ready and willing." I'd venture to say 97.897% of american prostitutes are supporting a drug habit.

I dare say, not. I know many, used to hang out with strippers and prostitutes, and they were clean. The only habit they were supporting was an overwhelming love of money.

Of course, there are streetwalkers who are strung out and messed up, but even then it's their choice. Nobody put a gun to their head and told them to sell sex. Nope, in fact they are the ones out there in the street actively and aggressively looking for the "johns".

And yes, there are alternatives, which anybody can see plain as day, but they choose prostitution instead. "Choose" being the key word.

kristeejo · 09-15-2006, 07:40 AM

get that smile off your face and we'll debate

hehe

kristeejo · 09-15-2006, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by John Scott

I dare say, not. I know many, used to hang out with strippers and prostitutes, and they were clean. The only habit they were supporting was an overwhelming love of money.

Of course, there are streetwalkers who are strung out and messed up, but even then it's their choice. Nobody put a gun to their head and told them to sell sex. Nope, in fact they are the ones out there in the street actively and aggressively looking for the "johns".

And yes, there are alternatives, which anybody can see plain as day, but they choose prostitution instead. "Choose" being the key word.

Not sure of your point, but we all make "choices" each day. Many MANY hookers have nasty drug habits, John, or they would NOT be selling their bodies. It's quick money.

John Scott · 09-15-2006, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by kristeejo

Not sure of your point, but we all make "choices" each day. Many MANY hookers have nasty drug habits, John, or they would NOT be selling their bodies. It's quick money.

So? That does not mean they were forced into it. By your logic, I'm forced into Internet marketing, by my addiction to money. If it weren't for my need to live nicely, I'd be working half days as a ski instructor.

I choose to be an Internet marketer; they choose to sell sex. Nobody is forcing anybody.

kristeejo · 09-15-2006, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by John Scott

So? That does not mean they were forced into it. By your logic, I'm forced into Internet marketing, by my addiction to money. If it weren't for my need to live nicely, I'd be working half days as a ski instructor.

I choose to be an Internet marketer; they choose to sell sex. Nobody is forcing anybody.

Technically they aren't being forced, no, however what other "occupation" is going to tolerate the irrational behavior that usually goes hand in hand with drug addiction?

You could've chosen a different career, as I'm sure many other types of career would've tolerated your behavior/skillset....errr scratch that.

JuggoPop · 09-15-2006, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by kristeejo

Many MANY hookers have nasty drug habits or they would NOT be selling their bodies. It's quick money.

sometimes having high amounts of money leads to drug use.

someone making $6.00 an hour at Mickey Ds is going to have a hard time getting hooked on coke.

but if a girl goes from $6/hr then makes $100 an hour overnight...
then it becomes a party and drug use is something to spend the money on.

not everyone sells their body to get drugs.

John Scott · 09-15-2006, 07:48 AM

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Technically they aren't being forced, no, however what other "occupation" is going to tolerate the irrational behavior that usually goes hand in hand with drug addiction?

Web design, SEO, marriage.... quite a few other jobs are better suited to crack whores.

kristeejo · 09-15-2006, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by JuggoPop

sometimes having high amounts of money leads to drug use.

someone making $6.00 an hour at Mickey Ds is going to have a hard time getting hooked on coke.

but if a girl goes from $6/hr then makes $100 an hour overnight...
then it becomes a party and drug use is something to spend the money on.

not everyone sells their body to get drugs.

didn't say "everyone," but MANY. I can't believe you guys are arguing this point!

JuggoPop · 09-15-2006, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by kristeejo

didn't say "everyone," but MANY. I can't believe you guys are arguing this point!

you said:

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or they would NOT be selling their bodies.

I took that as there is no other reason to sell your body
and that would go to say all hookers are drug addicts and do it for the drugs.

I guess I misunderstood you.

John Scott · 09-15-2006, 07:51 AM

I'll put it this way - I know a lot of call girls, and not a single one who is isnto any hardcore drug use.

KenMendonca · 09-15-2006, 07:53 AM

Smiling is fun, you can't argue with someone when they're smiling at you. It's my secret weapon.

The laws our country makes are, ideally, the laws we the citizens of said country want in place to uphold the beliefs of our culture. Maintaining that culture should be the focus of any law we pass.

In a tribe of cannibals, it wouldn't make sense to make illegal the killing of a human since that is part of their culture.

But just because we may have some cannibals living in the US, we shouldn't pass a law allowing them to kill people if it goes to much against what our core beliefs are.

That's a crude analogy, but I hope it made my point.

kristeejo · 09-15-2006, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by JuggoPop

you said:

I took that as there is no other reason to sell your body
and that would go to say all hookers are drug addicts and do it for the drugs.

I guess I misunderstood you.

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Many MANY hookers have nasty drug habits, John, or they would NOT be selling their bodies. It's quick money.

and no, I doubt they would sell their bodies otherwise. Do you really think they like sleeping with nasty men?

kristeejo · 09-15-2006, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by John Scott

I'll put it this way - I know a lot of call girls, and not a single one who is isnto any hardcore drug use.

ok john - you knowing some hookers doesn't mean you can estimate everything based upon those hos. I know a lot of police officers, but you don't see me making up quotes about doughnuts.

John Scott · 09-15-2006, 07:58 AM

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and no, I doubt they would sell their bodies otherwise. Do you really think they like sleeping with nasty men?

Most call girls I know are pretty damn selfish. They don't sleep with nasty men, they flat out refuse.

JuggoPop · 09-15-2006, 08:00 AM

ok... so "Many Many" is what? 90% 70%??
so if 70-90% do it for the drugs, what are the other 10-30% doing it for?

the "or they would NOT be doing it" says that "Many Many" must stand for 100%, because there is no other reason... right?

hmmm... which is it?
they are all drug whores or just many of them?
one says all are about drugs and there is no other reason to sleep with a nasty guy.
while the other admits that some have other reasons.

John Scott · 09-15-2006, 08:03 AM

Christy is underestimating the capacity some girls have for the love of money. The call girls I knew drove Lexus LS 400's and Jag's and had big screens and all the goodies. The one thing the all seemed to have in common was a need to own brand name stuff. Gucci watches, and stuff like that. They appeared to need that stuff to validate their own self worth.