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Old 05-11-2014, 02:47 AM
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So. It's just another kick in the pants for small businesses.

Maybe everyone really does want to purchase everything from amazon, ebay, target, walmart and home depot....
Those two comments are sad but soooo correct.

I actually hate saying this and it causes me to get a little sad but....

People must understand that when it comes to business, all the internet is, is an extension of what is going on in the bricks-and-mortar world. In our everyday life, bigger stores destroy smaller stores due to stocking EVERYTHING and their buying power. As we have witnessed over the years, local communities are systematically going the way of the dodo due to this.

Move forward a few years and we have the internet, a level playing field for all businesses to compete on (so far so good).

Move forward a few more years and we now have an even bigger issue where not only is the internet destroying small local shops as you can now buy things cheaper online, but the big players online are now sending most small online businesses into liquidation as the big stores have a new battleground to conquer and with their enticingly huge budgets, who is going to refuse their business!

Any business forecast analyst worth their weight could see this coming a mile off and again there is little that can be done about it.

Be it net neutrality or basic online business, at the end of the day, the internet is just another form of business and in my humble opinion I would say that unless you have something that is truly specialist and unique, most small businesses should be prepared for the inevitable as it will happen. It's just business at the end of the day.
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Old 05-11-2014, 08:15 AM
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I hate to agree with you G10, but you are right.

Giant corporations are ruining the world in my opinion. I've seen the devastation in my small home town when walmart moved in - all of the family-owned small businesses went out of business. Some held their ground for a while and I had hope for them, but they eventually couldn't make a profit.

When Sam was alive, walmart at least had the "buy american" thing going on, which at least helped american manufacturers, but after he died that went with him.

Now they beat up manufacturers so badly that it affects people like me, who don't even shop at walmart. Example : I've always loved Levi jeans. When walmart started carrying levis, they beat them down on price, until finally levis became cheap crap like everything else sold at walmart. My beloved Levis were gone (yeah they still look about the same, but they don't last anywhere near as long, don't hold up to washing very well). Repeat this story for every brand walmart carries.

BUT - if you offer a unique product or service that the big guys can't or won't carry, you still have a fighting chance. Let Wheeler have his way and you can kiss that fighting chance goodbye.
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..... in my humble opinion I would say that unless you have something that is truly specialist and unique, most small businesses should be prepared for the inevitable as it will happen. It's just business at the end of the day.
So, here's to making businesses as special and as unique as we can!!!

What's really "exciting" is when semi-large companies in an industry start playing by the big-store playbook and are commoditizing products that could sell from more if they were actually thinking....

Does that make sense what I just wrote? <laughing>

It's like you can't win for losing.

Just say no to commoditization when you don't have to!!!

Now, must shoot more videos.....

So, as small businesses are going out of business, what do you think all the owners and employees are doing to make a living now?

Should we all be working on a list?
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So, as small businesses are going out of business, what do you think all the owners and employees are doing to make a living now?

Should we all be working on a list?
I would say you need to live the American dream by finding a niche product some small company is making, steal their idea, get the product made in bulk in China, totally stiffling the small company in the process and HEY PRESTO

Either that or go with Scripty's idea and get a job in McDonalds... Either way, you're living the dream

Ok, maybe my dreams aren't really that exciting
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I figured we'd all end up at Walmart. If so, I wanna be a greeter like Jeff Dunham's Walter. hehe. If you haven't seen it, look it up on youtube (just barely not-family-friendly, or I would post a link here)
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Well the FCC voted yesterday 3-2 to move forward with their new rules. This fight isn't over though - as much as I hate to put any hope in the prez, if he would speak up on this we could still have hope of keeping net neutrality. He does have a history of getting his way, so a public denouncement of the new FCC rules and a demand to protect net neutrality would likely cause the FCC to rewrite the rules (again).

Obama said he would defend the internet - Demand Progress is pushing to make him keep his word. Learn more : http://act.demandprogress.org/sign/fcc_nn_copy/
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We're losing this battle - more people are paying attention and getting involved, but we need to overwhelm them and MAKE THEM LISTEN.

A hilarious video released by John Oliver actually caused so many people to comment on the FCC website that their servers crashed.

John Oliver's rant about net neutrality crashes FCC site
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some day it was bound to happen, emergence of large corporations and tech giants would say does no good.
 
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The FCC blew it when they classified broadband as an "information service" in 2002.
Did they? Only if their action did not support their objective.

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Move forward a few more years and we now have an even bigger issue where not only is the internet destroying small local shops as you can now buy things cheaper online, but the big players online are now sending most small online businesses into liquidation
Or maybe...

Maybe it's the consumers who are destroying small businesses? If they hadn't chosen Walmart over Mom and Pop, Walmart would be dead already.

On the other hand, the internet seems to have been a boon to quality-driven small business sectors, such as artisans and craftsmen, allowing them to reach quality-seeking consumers all over the globe, rather than just those few in their local area. (Apparently, since quality-seeking consumers are so few and far between, you have to have a wide reach to find enough of them to keep a quality-driven business going.) Similarly, after sputtering for several decades, our local farmers markets have finally taken off since they started using the internet to gain visibility among local consumers, for whom they otherwise tended to be "out of sight, out of mind."

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