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Old 07-05-2017, 10:09 PM
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So Much Talk About Trump Russia How About DNC?

One thing is clear and should be to even the most feeble minded...You hear a lot about Trump and the Russians...over and over and over...what about other aspects?

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Old 07-06-2017, 06:44 AM
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I don't get how the majority of Americans don't see that they're living under a tyrannical, fascist dictatorship???

There's a small group of oligarchs who own the media AND your politicians.

It's the reason that the media regularly lies to you. They are told to by your masters.
It's the reason why almost all of the media stories are biased against Trump. Hillary was their choice.
It's the reason why the only positive press Trump gets is when he's making war. That's what the military industrial complex wants.
It's the reason why the US is embroiled in several wars without congressional approval.
It's the reason why your "elected representatives" don't do what's best for the public, but only do what they're told by their corporate masters.
It's the reason why Russia was demonized in the first place. Cold war 2.0 is good for business if you produce military hardware.

To answer your question directly, TechWizard, other aspects don't get attention because it's NOT in the best interests of your masters to have that information come to light. If the DNC servers are investigated thoroughly and impartially, then the whole "Russian hacking" narrative falls apart. That would be one more reason to spend less on the military and they can't have that! It's gotten to the point that the military industrial complex is so big, so onerous, that a return to some sort of normalcy is not possible without slaying that dragon first. War is fantastic for the banks who lend to both sides and the military suppliers. That's why we have so much of it (war). And things will continue this way and continue to get worse until this dragon is properly disposed of. It's survival now depends on constant war.
 
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Old 07-06-2017, 08:08 AM
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Hey there Zap!

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It's the reason that the media regularly lies to you. They are told to by your masters.
Very true about the masters part...whether they are our masters or simply the masters of those that work for them is a debate of it's own. The fact that many people as a rule do not use critical thinking skills and simply watch the media outlet that sends out the most information that conforms to what they already want to hear doesn't help. This tends to be a human trait rather than simply an American trait psychologically speaking though.


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It's the reason why almost all of the media stories are biased against Trump. Hillary was their choice.
Again true, Hillary was the choice of many that have the heaviest influence in Media stories.

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It's the reason why the only positive press Trump gets is when he's making war. That's what the military industrial complex wants.
You've lost me on this one. What war(s) specifically has Trump started since he's been in office?

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It's the reason why the US is embroiled in several wars without congressional approval.
What wars specifically are you referring to?

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It's the reason why your "elected representatives" don't do what's best for the public, but only do what they're told by their corporate masters.
When you have a system that allows someone to hold office as long as they continue to win re-election it promotes corruption. I agree with you. I for 1 a long with many others strongly support term limits. While it won't eradicate corruption as a whole it will diminish the long term corruption of many of those that hold office. If for no other reason simply due to the fact that they won't be there long term.

Many representatives go into office with good in their hearts and minds and the best of intentions.

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It's the reason why Russia was demonized in the first place. Cold war 2.0 is good for business if you produce military hardware.
I think Putin has done a very good job demonizing Russia on his own since he's been in power and pushed full force toward creating/reinstating the cold war. President Bush and all of the others have been foolish enough to believe otherwise in my opinion...for what it's worth.

The military complex and size is actually at one of the lowest sizes and influences since President Carter. Down to a scary point...the size of our functional Navy, Air force etc is very scary due to downsizing and lack of attention/resources.
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Old 07-10-2017, 08:36 AM
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Hey there Zap!
Hey man.

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You've lost me on this one. What war(s) specifically has Trump started since he's been in office?
Think back. Trump couldn't do anything right until he fired missiles into Syria in response to the chemical attack that was blamed on Assad. When he did that, the same media that was deminizing his every move, suddenly fell in love with him for a minute, just long enough to praise him a lot for the day or two it took up the headlines and then they went back to demonizing Trump again. When he's making war, he's a good guy, otherwise, he's a mysoginist, bigoted pig.

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What wars specifically are you referring to?
Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Yemen, Syria
The US is bombing/has bombed all 6 of these nations.
It doesn't matter if a president has formally declared war or not, dropping bombs on another country is an act of war.
There's a reason WHY war was not declared on most of these nations.

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I think Putin has done a very good job demonizing Russia on his own since he's been in power and pushed full force toward creating/reinstating the cold war. President Bush and all of the others have been foolish enough to believe otherwise in my opinion...for what it's worth.
If you've been paying attention, Putin has NOT done anything to push us into cold war 2.0. The warhawks in the US administration have, both Obama's administration and now Trump's administration. Putin keeps trying to work with the US on many fronts, even when he knows that certain members of the US government are actively trying to screw him over. He has repeatedly tried to work with the US in Syria, for example, regardless of the fact that the US is working with ISIS to try to depose Assad. Time after time, the US bombs the Syrian army (who is fighting against ISIS) and each time, Putin tries to continue to work with the US anyway. It was only recently that he decided to NOT coordinate with the US on a no-fly zone because the US keeps bombing Syrian army positions and allowing ISIS to take them over.
Time to put your critical thinking skills to work. NATO broke their agreement to move no further east than Germany. NATO keeps moving closer to the Russian border in several countries and placing military hardware on Russia's borders. Is Putin doing all that? Is it Putin who broke the pact with NATO? No.
Stop listening to the media and your government. They are lying to you.
The cold war 2.0 is a complete fabrication of US government staff for the purpose of bolstering the military industrial complex.

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The military complex and size is actually at one of the lowest sizes and influences since President Carter. Down to a scary point...the size of our functional Navy, Air force etc is very scary due to downsizing and lack of attention/resources.
Military spending is at all time highs and only on the increase. See the chart at the following link.
https://www.cato.org/blog/budget-sna...administration
The US outspends the next 7 countries COMBINED on their military.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milita..._United_States

The size of your military is NOT a problem, unless you feel that 7 to 1 odds is not high enough for Americans to hold their own in a fight.
 
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