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05-08-2007, 10:59 PM
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05-10-2007, 12:44 AM
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This is what you get when the Arabs adjust themselves to "the American way".
I see not much difference with the US army who are doing about the same thing, for example how the US military sponsors about every single war game. I've seen a documentary on the BBC in which a US colonel was praising how those games idealized the army and how those games helped them to recrute young people. Not to mention faux news and the like who create an atmosphere of fear and hatred for everything Arabic.
Hehhe, the pot calling the kettle black.
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05-14-2007, 09:50 AM
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This is what you get when the Arabs adjust themselves to "the American way".
I see not much difference with the US army who are doing about the same thing, for example how the US military sponsors about every single war game. I've seen a documentary on the BBC in which a US colonel was praising how those games idealized the army and how those games helped them to recrute young people. Not to mention faux news and the like who create an atmosphere of fear and hatred for everything Arabic.
Hehhe, the pot calling the kettle black.
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1. "The US is doing it too" is not a valid defense.
2. Seda is not American (the "pot").
3. The games the US Army sponsor are not racist hatred. Big difference.
4. "The US is doing it too" is not a valid defense.
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05-14-2007, 02:59 PM
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"Children are taught that killing Jews is a good thing," he said. "Children are taught to hate Jews and to hate on-believers."
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And this is going to achieve peace resolution HOW?
Seems like they are trying the good old Germanic SS brainwashing approach.
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05-15-2007, 05:35 PM
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05-15-2007, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Ferre
This is what you get when the Arabs adjust themselves to "the American way".
I see not much difference with the US army who are doing about the same thing, for example how the US military sponsors about every single war game. I've seen a documentary on the BBC in which a US colonel was praising how those games idealized the army and how those games helped them to recrute young people. Not to mention faux news and the like who create an atmosphere of fear and hatred for everything Arabic.
Hehhe, the pot calling the kettle black.
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How could you possibly defend such disgraceful propoganda and compare it to that of the USA?
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05-16-2007, 03:10 AM
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The games the US Army sponsor are not racist hatred. Big difference.
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05-16-2007, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by pearl5
The games the US Army sponsor are not racist hatred. Big difference.
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There an echo in here?
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05-16-2007, 01:13 PM
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How could you possibly defend such disgraceful propoganda and compare it to that of the USA?
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I do not defend it in any way. I merely point out that there's propaganda on both sides of the isle. Ok, there's minor differences in the approach on both sides but for me it's all the same warmongering crap.
Funny how you assume that I would defend disgraceful propaganda only because I point out that disgraceful propaganda comes in different shapes and from all sides involved in this conflict.
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05-16-2007, 01:13 PM
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There an echo in here?
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I've been hearing that echo all over the forum today.
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05-16-2007, 02:19 PM
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I do not defend it in any way. I merely point out that there's propaganda on both sides of the isle.
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I don't think propaganda is the issue. The issue is fanatical and bloodthirsty racism.
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05-16-2007, 03:27 PM
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I don't think propaganda is the issue. The issue is fanatical and bloodthirsty racism.
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Sure, and I agree. At the same time I notice that often excessives are amplefied from one party to make it look like they are the only ones that advocate fanatical and bloodthirsthy racism. I can show you the same amount of examples from bloodthirsthy fanatical racism on numerous websites, tv shows (a certain evangelical priest comes to mind) and other examples of the same fanatical lunatism coming from western/christian sources, some of them even highly respected and considered to be politically correct.
From where I see it, at present times our planet is dominated by criminally insane sociopaths who use religion and fear to submit the population into accepting their madness.
Myself I feel like watching all this from the sideline, I don't feel associated with all that crap in any way and hope that humanity can fix the bugs in our democratic systems before there's nothing left of democracy to fix. As it looks now, theocratic fascism is the new global trend to follow in the future,.....or else.
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05-16-2007, 03:32 PM
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I can show you the same amount of examples from bloodthirsthy fanatical racism on numerous websites
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Again, what kind of logic is it that makes you think that "they are doing it too" is a defense? Because you seem to state that in a way that makes it appear that you expect all to be forgiven.
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other examples of the same fanatical lunatism coming from western/christian sources, some of them even highly respected and considered to be politically correct.
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You are telling me you see highly respected Christians in the West telling people to go out and kill other races?
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05-16-2007, 03:38 PM
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I'm not defending anything John, I just point out that it's dangerous lunatism and we have a lot of that on both sides of the isle, that's all. For me there's no difference between idiots with yellow noses or idiots with red noses, for me they are all idiots just the same, I don't discriminate one party or exclude another.
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05-16-2007, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Ferre
I'm not defending anything John, I just point out that it's dangerous lunatism and we have a lot of that on both sides of the isle, that's all. For me there's no difference between idiots with yellow noses or idiots with red noses, for me they are all idiots just the same, I don't discriminate one party or exclude another.
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You fail to understand whats going on in the world today. Watch the movie "the world trade centers". Watch how the USA has removed an evil and tyrant leader. Watch how the Islamic extremeists have been killing the innocents.
Watch how Iraq condescended into chaos due to its own sect leaders. Watch how everything unfolded. Surely you will realise the USA is not at fault. In fact they have done their best.
I think George Bush's presidency has been well served. Just the anti-war protestors at home have dropped his confidence levels and made him unable to destroy any other tyrant leaders which he would have. So the peace protestors just want the tyrant leaders to come to power. To get peace, sometimes, i will emphasize sometimes again, to get peace sometimes you need war.
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05-17-2007, 04:42 AM
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You can bomb the world into pieces but you can't bomb it into peace.
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05-17-2007, 08:13 AM
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Getting a little serious for the lobby.
Moved to the too-serious forum.
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05-17-2007, 09:18 AM
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I love some good hamas every now and then.
Or was that humus?
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05-17-2007, 11:08 AM
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(shudder) Oiy. All that talk of war leading to peace reeks of Orwellian double-speak. (shudder)
...and I like a bit of hummus myself now and then. Yum!
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