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Old 07-10-2007, 08:48 AM
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Yep, the Pope did everything he could to help Jews escape - 3 years after the war had started.

Before the world, and probably the Pope too, knew what Hitler was doing to the Jews he was on very friendly terms with the Pope and the Vatican, one could also think that the Pope started to act like a people savior once it became known what H was doing, to clean up his image as a supporter of that dude.

..and don't forget that our present Pope was in service of the nazi army as an army chaplain to support the troops spiritually during the complete wartime. The beloved Pope Ratsinger was one of the guys who blessed the soldiers that went out to round up jews all over Europe and beyond.
 

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Old 07-10-2007, 08:55 AM
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Vatican agreed and Catholics supported him.
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The Concordat between the Vatican and the Nazis

Cardinal Secretary of State, Eugenio Pacelli (later to become Pope Pius XII) signs the Concordat between Nazi Germany and the Vatican at a formal ceremony in Rome on 20 July 1933. Nazi Vice-Chancellor Franz von Papen sits at the left, Pacelli in the middle, and the Rudolf Buttmann sits at the right.

The Concordat effectively legitimized Hitler and the Nazi government to the eyes of Catholicism, Christianity, and the world.
http://www.nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm

http://libcom.org/library/role-catho...h-na-1941-1945
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Read it, G.
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Old 07-10-2007, 09:06 AM
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Read it, G.
IT is a good article and sounds convincing, it could be true.

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John Cornwell in his book Hitler's Pope: The Secret History of Pius XII (Viking, London, UK, 1999):
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Old 07-10-2007, 09:26 AM
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IT is a good article and sounds convincing, it could be true.
If it is not true, then what is???

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I take it you have also read my links, yes

You must do your own research into it as it is never easy taking someone's word for it, especially during a forum debate.

I'm not saying it is but it could be that a catholic education site may be slightly biased towards catholicism?
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I take it you have also read my links, yes

You must do your own research into it as it is never easy taking someone's word for it, especially during a forum debate.

I'm not saying it is but it could be that a catholic education site may be slightly biased towards catholicism?
Joke, I agree with you.

Just trying to continue debat.

Laugh, smile it cost nothing.

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Indians will remember Britain as a country that ruled India and many other countries (during colonial era) using a divide-and-rule policy. Forgiven completly but not forgotten.

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Old 07-13-2007, 06:07 AM
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i am English, but what i want to know from you yanks is - why do you all stereotype us as having bad teeth ?
- it's just something that i picked up from watching the likes of family guy simpsons etc....
There is actually some basis for that stereotype, Europeans don't add fluoride to their water as they do in America and subsequently have much worse teeth. Generally speaking of course. Being a Caveman and all it's like a kettle calling the pot black.
 
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There is actually some basis for that stereotype, Europeans don't add fluoride to their water as they do in America and subsequently have much worse teeth.
Most of our tooth paste has fluoride, and we generally brush, rinse and spit, no drinking fluoride polluted water.

I did hear that fluoride does have side effects.

Although since the water in the Thames goes through seven other people before it gets to us down in South London, me thinks fluoride is the least of our problems.
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Old 07-13-2007, 10:52 AM
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I did hear that fluoride does have side effects.
You heard correct SITA dude
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Wow, nice debate from Britain, catholicism and now tooth.
 
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I would love to go there I love a lot of British bands...and I read a few UK magazines. The Brits aren't as freakin uptight as Americans it seems.

Hmm... about the teeth thing.... in the Brit mags I read, the people they always show do have different teeth than the American mags... like... the Brits look more "natural" (not necessarily bad...), but not fake... like the the super-white, veneered teeth in all the media here.
 
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As for the original question....

I think Brits are generally a well educated and proud people. I have a very favorable opinion of "them".

The only two negatives that come to mind are:
1 - They've allowed their politics and media to lower their standards too far, much like we have here in the U.S..
2 - The media and politicians are far too liberal and socialistic for my liking.
 
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USA and UK are a long time political friends.
 
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